History is one long war between autistics & schizophreni

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There's no need to prove it wrong, since you have yet to prove it correct.

ill just add this: i had a mild schizo girlfriend, she dumped me pretty quick but we both agreed that we were the most similar person we had found ever

I can see why people would think Charles Manson were schizophrenic if they actually believed Charles Manson really thought it was all The Beatles fault for creating the song Helter Skelter.

The truth is, sociopaths and narcissists never blame themselves and when caught lie and blame other people or things. Much like Ted Bundy blamed porn. Charles Manson blamed The Beatles. The fact that people actually believed their reasons and decided to target porn and rock music shows that people have little understanding of psychology.

Manson took alot of LSD with his followers which was probably used with the intent to control his followers. On the stand, he revealed how narcissistic he was.

Jim Jones...was he schizophrenic or a sociopath? In his early childhood he would kill his cats just so he could have a funeral for them.

Sociopaths, everything is blamed on their behavior for something like porn and rock music or bad childhood in documentaries aired by the media yet even before some bad things happened in their childhood they were doing things like murdering their pets or placing knives all around someone's pillow. Why is there so much defense for psychopaths but a witch hunt against autism?

I have a theory. People stand up for their own.

I've been around sociopaths. Some actually ended up killing, some did not but they did kill other people's pets or try to cause someone to get into a car accident. Other sociopaths haven't killed and just live normal lives to the best they can. Sure they may think about wanting to get revenge or hurt someone but leave it as thoughts.

Is it because narcissists hate us? Narcissists can't relate, can't turn us into their golden child? The only thing the narcissist can do for supply over autistics is try to get sympathy from people.

Is it because the sociopaths hate us? The sociopaths who aren't killing, they play the game and pretend to have that empathy that they lack to survive. When the sociopath meets someone who is different and isn't playing the game, does the sociopath see a threat of exposure from someone who remembers details an awful lot and can perhaps detect the mask worn?

Well, I have a letter for any sociopath reading this.

Dear Sociopath,

You're a sociopath. I don't really care.
You play the game much better than I can...the talking, the smiling, the charm. I don't care.
You're wearing a mask. I don't care. I sometimes wear one too. It's called makeup.
You have nothing to be alarmed about. Yeah so I see through you but if you aren't running around killing people or being a complete sadistic creep. You have no need to worry. Just go about your business.


To the narcissists.

Dear narcissist,

You are a great person. You think so anyway. I'm glad you think so, someone has to do it!
You are full of it, strangers don't get it but I do. It makes me nauseous but while I'm containing my vomit to the best of my ability just know that I don't care enough to call you out.
I'm just living life the best that I can. I could care less if you and me were friends. Just go about living and so will I.

John Nash was diagnosed schizophrenic but later it was suggested he might have Aspergers. His obsession with looking through those magazine articles and finding patterns was a hell of an intense special interest, that started with extreme logic and traveled well beyond it.

22Q11.2 deletion syndrome is now associated with both schizophrenia and autism.

Alexithymia is seen in both disorders, and it is finally understood that extreme affective empathy potentially exists in both disorders as well, particularly Aspergers.

Autism and Schizophrenia is commonly seen in close relatives.

Fluid filled ventricles in the brain are associated findings in individuals that have either, considered as incidental findings in the general population.

Faceblindness is associated with Autism And Schizophrenia.

Studies show individuals that live in higher population areas are more likely to experience symptoms of schizophrenia and autism disorders, even after they move away from these high population centers.

Both schizophrenics and autistic individuals are associated as having problems in seeing visual illusion.

The negative affect of schizophrenia is very similiar to autistic traits.

In the ICD10 psychosis in young adulthood is listed as an event that happens in some young adults with aspergers, which at the time can be mis-diagnosed as schizophrenia and medically treated as such.

In males, young adults with schizophrenia often exhibit their first manifestation of schizophrenia when reaching adulthood.

Recent genetic variants/markers found associated with autism are also associated with schizophrenia.

Individuals with Aspergers score high in personality tests that measure for schizotypal behavior. While they might not often be hot on religion, they often are hot on unexplained events like supernatural phenomenon and UFO's.

Both individuals with Aspergers and Schizophrenia personify objects in their environment.

There is a theory about an extreme female brains and schizophrenia supported by Cohen that he suggests is opposite from Cohen's theory of the extreme male brain in Autism, however many individuals with aspergers don't present as anything associated with extreme male other than the AS test, per results of gender I.D. tests, per informal results presented here on this website.

There are way too many general similiarities with these disorders, to suggest they are opposite disorders.

In fact, as research continues the similarities become more evident.

The biggest difference seems to be that psychosis is not nearly as evident in autism as it is in schizophrenia, although it is a finding in some cases of aspergers.

There is medication that effectively treats psychosis, but not any that treats the lack of psychosis.

It is thought that excessive sensitivity to dopamine causes this in schizophrenia, so schizophrenia may be something related to autism with the dopamine sensitivity jacked up, or autism may be something related to schizophrenia with the dopamine sensitivity not jacked up high enough for psychosis.

The obsessive rituals, routines, structures, special interests of some individuals with Aspergers may be coping mechanisms that keep them grounded to reality. Who knows maybe Aspergers is a milder version of schizophrenia rather than a milder version of Autism.

But, considering Autism was called schizophrenia first and there was no DSM at that point in time, if there was there could instead be a schizophrenic spectrum that all are part of, with some being identified as having a disorder within that spectrum with psychosis and some not identified with psychosis in that spectrum.

John Nash presents an interesting example of where the boundries might be, and what it is that separates him and others like him from those that don't recover from schizophrenia later in life.

If only world was linear..