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03 Jan 2012, 3:39 pm

To those who do not want me here,

Congratulations. It seems you have won. I have no doubt in myself that I do indeed have Asperger's,self-diagnosed. It seems,however, that I also have not become strong enough to withstand bullying.
Your questioning of my right to not only be able to identify myself through self-analysis and research, but to have the right to speak with others with whom I feel I finally share some kind of understanding, has officially intimidated me. I no longer feel comfortable asking questions here.
I only feel comfortable posting in general topics that are discussed anywhere else.

While I well know that I am responsible for myself and my emotions, I also know I have the right to my feelings.

Since You who do not want me here are so verbal in your opposition, wish to remain anonymous. Making yourself known only through numbers on a poll. I do not know who to avoid.

I have been questioned, doubted, and forced to defend myself my whole life. Frankly I am physically and emotionally exhausted. I am not a stupid person. I will not keep going somewhere where I feel there is a good chance of repeated conflict.

You have not succeeded in your attempt for me to have to change my "label" of myself.

Most of you have been so incredibly kind and helpful. If there is any way I could ask any of you questions in the future while avoiding the negativity I would be grateful.

I'll be "lurking". :) In a harmless, information seeking way. GG :nerdy:


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03 Jan 2012, 3:55 pm

Why do you feel the need to prove that you have AS? If someone here thinks that you don't have it, or are "less aspergers" simply because a person with a certificate didn't tell you so, then screw them.


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03 Jan 2012, 3:56 pm

GreyGirl wrote:
To those who do not want me here,

Congratulations. It seems you have won. I have no doubt in myself that I do indeed have Asperger's,self-diagnosed. It seems,however, that I also have not become strong enough to withstand bullying.
Your questioning of my right to not only be able to identify myself through self-analysis and research, but to have the right to speak with others with whom I feel I finally share some kind of understanding, has officially intimidated me. I no longer feel comfortable asking questions here.
I only feel comfortable posting in general topics that are discussed anywhere else.

While I well know that I am responsible for myself and my emotions, I also know I have the right to my feelings.

Since You who do not want me here are so verbal in your opposition, wish to remain anonymous. Making yourself known only through numbers on a poll. I do not know who to avoid.

I have been questioned, doubted, and forced to defend myself my whole life. Frankly I am physically and emotionally exhausted. I am not a stupid person. I will not keep going somewhere where I feel there is a good chance of repeated conflict.

You have not succeeded in your attempt for me to have to change my "label" of myself.

Most of you have been so incredibly kind and helpful. If there is any way I could ask any of you questions in the future while avoiding the negativity I would be grateful.

I'll be "lurking". :) In a harmless, information seeking way. GG :nerdy:


Gray Girl, who is giving you a hard time? The one thing I can't tolerate is a bully. I'm going to see if I can't put a stop to this right now. You have just as much right to be here as anybody else.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:03 pm

if someone is targeting you or bullying you on the site, please tell a moderator about it so we can take action orprovide support/guidance as required. we don't want you to just leave if it can be helped.


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03 Jan 2012, 4:10 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
if someone is targeting you or bullying you on the site, please tell a moderator about it so we can take action orprovide support/guidance as required. we don't want you to just leave if it can be helped.


I agree I find it extremely discouraging that there are people here who'd make you feel that uncomfortable. Those people obviously don't represent the majority and I find it offensive that someone should be discouraged and hurt like you have.


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03 Jan 2012, 4:11 pm

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if someone is targeting you or bullying you on the site, please tell a moderator about it so we can take action orprovide support/guidance as required. we don't want you to just leave if it can be helped.


Hyper, I've already contacted Alex, this site's proprietor.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:25 pm

Dunnyveg wrote:
GreyGirl wrote:
To those who do not want me here,

Congratulations. It seems you have won. I have no doubt in myself that I do indeed have Asperger's,self-diagnosed. It seems,however, that I also have not become strong enough to withstand bullying.
Your questioning of my right to not only be able to identify myself through self-analysis and research, but to have the right to speak with others with whom I feel I finally share some kind of understanding, has officially intimidated me. I no longer feel comfortable asking questions here.
I only feel comfortable posting in general topics that are discussed anywhere else.

While I well know that I am responsible for myself and my emotions, I also know I have the right to my feelings.

Since You who do not want me here are so verbal in your opposition, wish to remain anonymous. Making yourself known only through numbers on a poll. I do not know who to avoid.

I have been questioned, doubted, and forced to defend myself my whole life. Frankly I am physically and emotionally exhausted. I am not a stupid person. I will not keep going somewhere where I feel there is a good chance of repeated conflict.

You have not succeeded in your attempt for me to have to change my "label" of myself.

Most of you have been so incredibly kind and helpful. If there is any way I could ask any of you questions in the future while avoiding the negativity I would be grateful.

I'll be "lurking". :) In a harmless, information seeking way. GG :nerdy:


Gray Girl, who is giving you a hard time? The one thing I can't tolerate is a bully. I'm going to see if I can't put a stop to this right now. You have just as much right to be here as anybody else.


This is my heart-felt response to all of the negativity and harsh speech found in the thread "[ Poll ] Are the un-diagnosed welcome here." So many comments there were positive, but the negatives are so definite. There is no bending or reasoning with some of the posters. It has been made quite clear that to the few who have stated as such, I am not welcome. They have made it clear that they do not want my input. It is of no value to the since I am not clinically diagnosed. It seems, according to their arguments, that I am offending them by posting as someone with experience living with asperger's. As I stated above. I do not know who they are. I can not avoid offending them. I loathe conflict. I did not mean to start anything. I asked for anyone who feels offended by my presence here to please identify themselves to me so I could avoid posting on their threads, or in direct response to their comments. They have not done so, so I feel insecure. I would rather not further indicate any specifics.
I have been through enough verbal trauma as a kid. I absolutely do not want to stir up more here. I'm sorry if I did.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:33 pm

GreyGirl wrote:
Dunnyveg wrote:
GreyGirl wrote:
To those who do not want me here,

Congratulations. It seems you have won. I have no doubt in myself that I do indeed have Asperger's,self-diagnosed. It seems,however, that I also have not become strong enough to withstand bullying.
Your questioning of my right to not only be able to identify myself through self-analysis and research, but to have the right to speak with others with whom I feel I finally share some kind of understanding, has officially intimidated me. I no longer feel comfortable asking questions here.
I only feel comfortable posting in general topics that are discussed anywhere else.

While I well know that I am responsible for myself and my emotions, I also know I have the right to my feelings.

Since You who do not want me here are so verbal in your opposition, wish to remain anonymous. Making yourself known only through numbers on a poll. I do not know who to avoid.

I have been questioned, doubted, and forced to defend myself my whole life. Frankly I am physically and emotionally exhausted. I am not a stupid person. I will not keep going somewhere where I feel there is a good chance of repeated conflict.

You have not succeeded in your attempt for me to have to change my "label" of myself.

Most of you have been so incredibly kind and helpful. If there is any way I could ask any of you questions in the future while avoiding the negativity I would be grateful.

I'll be "lurking". :) In a harmless, information seeking way. GG :nerdy:


Gray Girl, who is giving you a hard time? The one thing I can't tolerate is a bully. I'm going to see if I can't put a stop to this right now. You have just as much right to be here as anybody else.


This is my heart-felt response to all of the negativity and harsh speech found in the thread "[ Poll ] Are the un-diagnosed welcome here." So many comments there were positive, but the negatives are so definite. There is no bending or reasoning with some of the posters. It has been made quite clear that to the few who have stated as such, I am not welcome. They have made it clear that they do not want my input. It is of no value to the since I am not clinically diagnosed. It seems, according to their arguments, that I am offending them by posting as someone with experience living with asperger's. As I stated above. I do not know who they are. I can not avoid offending them. I loathe conflict. I did not mean to start anything. I asked for anyone who feels offended by my presence here to please identify themselves to me so I could avoid posting on their threads, or in direct response to their comments. They have not done so, so I feel insecure. I would rather not further indicate any specifics.
I have been through enough verbal trauma as a kid. I absolutely do not want to stir up more here. I'm sorry if I did.


I've contacted Alex. Hopefully either he or one of his moderators will be talking to you. Please tell them what's going on. You're not the first person I've heard echo these complaints, and there is not reason for it.

I'm hoping they can take care of the problem. If for some reason they don't, please PM me if you find yourself being bullied. You don't have to put up with that.



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03 Jan 2012, 4:35 pm

One reason I stay here is to annoy the people who would be annoyed by it. :wink:



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03 Jan 2012, 5:01 pm

I'm not diagnosed either, but I'm still here.

I used to know how you feel, and I've contemplated leaving like you, but then I took an arrow to the knee.


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03 Jan 2012, 5:13 pm

Dunnyveg wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
if someone is targeting you or bullying you on the site, please tell a moderator about it so we can take action orprovide support/guidance as required. we don't want you to just leave if it can be helped.


Hyper, I've already contacted Alex, this site's proprietor.

great, i hope he helps you with your concerns. the first line is usually a moderator and you might be adding an extra step as often alex would jsut refer it back to us anyways. there is a moderator attention thread and the mods are also listed there.

i'm going to have a look at the "undiagnosed" thread to see what's going on.


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03 Jan 2012, 5:24 pm

I haven't been here for a couple of days so I don't know who you are but I think you have a cute avatar.

I understand completely though what may have happened as it happens quite a lot. Don't let peoples opinions get to you and you don't even need to post something like this. Just walk away and believe what you want to believe. I'm actually trying to be supportive here. If you believe you have Aspergers and have done all that research then that's great.

You know I have many opinions on autism too, some that I do not share here because of the emotional backlash I would receive.

I understand your hurt because we've all been there when we've learned finally why we are the way we are and people doubting that can really hurt. I've been getting into my own arguments over another matter but it hurts just as much as what you're going through.


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03 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

GreyGirl wrote:
Dunnyveg wrote:
GreyGirl wrote:
To those who do not want me here,

Congratulations. It seems you have won. I have no doubt in myself that I do indeed have Asperger's,self-diagnosed. It seems,however, that I also have not become strong enough to withstand bullying.
Your questioning of my right to not only be able to identify myself through self-analysis and research, but to have the right to speak with others with whom I feel I finally share some kind of understanding, has officially intimidated me. I no longer feel comfortable asking questions here.
I only feel comfortable posting in general topics that are discussed anywhere else.

While I well know that I am responsible for myself and my emotions, I also know I have the right to my feelings.

Since You who do not want me here are so verbal in your opposition, wish to remain anonymous. Making yourself known only through numbers on a poll. I do not know who to avoid.

I have been questioned, doubted, and forced to defend myself my whole life. Frankly I am physically and emotionally exhausted. I am not a stupid person. I will not keep going somewhere where I feel there is a good chance of repeated conflict.

You have not succeeded in your attempt for me to have to change my "label" of myself.

Most of you have been so incredibly kind and helpful. If there is any way I could ask any of you questions in the future while avoiding the negativity I would be grateful.

I'll be "lurking". :) In a harmless, information seeking way. GG :nerdy:


Gray Girl, who is giving you a hard time? The one thing I can't tolerate is a bully. I'm going to see if I can't put a stop to this right now. You have just as much right to be here as anybody else.


This is my heart-felt response to all of the negativity and harsh speech found in the thread "[ Poll ] Are the un-diagnosed welcome here." So many comments there were positive, but the negatives are so definite. There is no bending or reasoning with some of the posters. It has been made quite clear that to the few who have stated as such, I am not welcome. They have made it clear that they do not want my input. It is of no value to the since I am not clinically diagnosed. It seems, according to their arguments, that I am offending them by posting as someone with experience living with asperger's. As I stated above. I do not know who they are. I can not avoid offending them. I loathe conflict. I did not mean to start anything. I asked for anyone who feels offended by my presence here to please identify themselves to me so I could avoid posting on their threads, or in direct response to their comments. They have not done so, so I feel insecure. I would rather not further indicate any specifics.
I have been through enough verbal trauma as a kid. I absolutely do not want to stir up more here. I'm sorry if I did.


I did not read anything that was all that bad in this poll. The professionals call this "catastrophizing" when talking about us ASD people. Yet further proof that you are Aspie. :)

I agree with everyone saying to just stay on. If nobody is outright bullying you, then it isn't something for you to worry about. Just be you.



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03 Jan 2012, 5:31 pm

I'm undiagnosed too but am still here after several years and am now a moderator too! If anyone is giving you crap it is best to contact a moderator about it as Hyerlexian says. We are here to help. Generally a waste of time sending PMs to Alex though as he leaves all the moderation to us and rarely get involved with that side of things.


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03 Jan 2012, 5:45 pm

^^^ Tallyman has a good point and i didn't even think of that. until May i only had an informal diagnosis from mental health professionals along the lines of, "yes you have a developmental disability, i don't know what it is but your real problems are anxiety and depression..." it took about 4 years to finally the official diagnosis.

so really, you are in good company, GreyGirl.

i checked out the other thread and didn't see any heinous posts. one member seemed to be asserting that he doesn't consider self-DX to be valid, but that's a fair opinion. 90% of the voters said un-DX people are welcome, so i don't see a problem there. there's no bullying in the thread that i can see, and the large majority of people are defending the un-DXed members.

diagnostic status is a sensitive topic and sometimes threads do get out of hand, but that one is ok.


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03 Jan 2012, 5:55 pm

Did you ever consider that the people who voted "no" weren't saying they didn't welcome self-diagnosed people; just that they didn't feel they were welcomed? So in other words, they meant they felt they were shunned rather than they were the ones doing the shunning?
I, too, have read through the entire thread and several ones like it and nobody ever says that the self-diagnosed aren't welcome. We're just discussing the validity of self-dx. Don't be so quick to assume you're being penalised.