Palestinians do not have to fight Israel to win

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07 Jan 2012, 4:11 pm

All the Palestinians have to do is make a settlement, and breed like bunnies for the next 60 years. Israel will be swamped and the game will be over. Not a shot fired nor a rocket launched in anger.

They could have done this 60 years ago. As Abba Eban once said: The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

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07 Jan 2012, 4:42 pm

Maybe the Sudanese will over run them.

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07 Jan 2012, 5:27 pm

Cause it is not like Israel would ever ever bomb the settlement or send in the bulldozers to destroy every home in it.

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07 Jan 2012, 5:45 pm

If the Palestinians did that Israel would expand their territory.

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07 Jan 2012, 10:17 pm

If the Palestinians or Israelis are alive in the next 60 years.

There will more than likely be a long violent war first.
The Muslims and Jews have been fighting for years.

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09 Jan 2012, 7:39 pm

That's the reason why clear thinking Israelis who want a Jewish state to continue existing welcome a two state solution. Otherwise, one of two things would happen:

1) Israel would eventually become Palestine, with the Jews disappearing into a vast Arab populace.

Or...

2) Israel would institute a form of Apartheid, in which the Arab majority would live as second class citizens.

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09 Jan 2012, 9:27 pm

Don't Orthodox Jews also breed like bunnies?

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09 Jan 2012, 10:40 pm

pandabear wrote:

Don't Orthodox Jews also breed like bunnies?

The vast majority of Jews in Israel are not orthodox. Some of them are not particularly observant.

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09 Jan 2012, 11:33 pm

ruveyn wrote:

pandabear wrote:

Don't Orthodox Jews also breed like bunnies?

The vast majority of Jews in Israel are not orthodox. Some of them are not particularly observant.

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Don't tell that to the fundies in this country, who think all Israelis are observant Jews - who will then transform into evangelical Christians after Christ's return.

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10 Jan 2012, 12:31 am

ruveyn wrote:

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Don't Orthodox Jews also breed like bunnies?

The vast majority of Jews in Israel are not orthodox. Some of them are not particularly observant.

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I thought a good portion of them studied the Torah. Or joined the army.

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10 Jan 2012, 12:57 am

snapcap wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

pandabear wrote:

Don't Orthodox Jews also breed like bunnies?

The vast majority of Jews in Israel are not orthodox. Some of them are not particularly observant.

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I thought a good portion of them studied the Torah. Or joined the army.

You can study a holy book without being observant. I've studied parts of the Bible and I'm an agnostic.

Joining the army is a patriotic act and not a religious observance. There are Arabs in the IDF.

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10 Jan 2012, 1:00 am

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There are Arabs in the IDF.

A famous case is that of Amos Yarkoni (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Yarkoni).

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10 Jan 2012, 1:06 am

puddingmouse wrote:

snapcap wrote:

ruveyn wrote:

pandabear wrote:

Don't Orthodox Jews also breed like bunnies?

The vast majority of Jews in Israel are not orthodox. Some of them are not particularly observant.

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I thought a good portion of them studied the Torah. Or joined the army.

You can study a holy book without being observant. I've studied parts of the Bible and I'm an agnostic.

I can see that, but what does it mean to not be observant? If you do everything but overlook a couple of things, does that make you non-observant?

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Joining the army is a patriotic act and not a religious observance. There are Arabs in the IDF.

Jews serve in Iran's military, at least I've read that they aren't exempt from serving.

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10 Jan 2012, 1:13 am

snapcap wrote:

If you do everything but overlook a couple of things, does that make you non-observant?

Can anyone hear the phrase "no true Scotsman", anyone?

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10 Jan 2012, 1:17 am

Tequila wrote:

snapcap wrote:

If you do everything but overlook a couple of things, does that make you non-observant?

Can anyone hear the phrase "no true Scotsman", anyone?

How come you always have so much dead space in your posts?

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10 Jan 2012, 1:20 am

snapcap wrote:

Tequila wrote:

snapcap wrote:

If you do everything but overlook a couple of things, does that make you non-observant?

Can anyone hear the phrase "no true Scotsman", anyone?

How come you always have so much dead space in your posts?

Someone needs to explain the "no true Scotsman" thing to me.

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