Aspergian Liberation Organization (ALO)

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In view of the many injustices faced and suffered by Aspergians everywhere, I move that we found the Aspergian Liberation Organization (ALO) for the purpose of non-violent resistance (of course, I suppose I could call in an air strike if needed) of NT oppression everywhere.

Our motto: Make love - not peace!

OK, I'll bite: In what way are we oppressed, and by what entity?

If you wouldn't come across in a way that was so blamed insulting - you might actually get halfway civil responses. Thank you for your service.

Longshanks

interesting thread. normally i'd issue reminders or warnings for the personal attacks in the thread, but you two seem to have come to some sort of understanding i think.

i agree with Fnord about this part:

As far as complainers go, they are probably having a hard time articulating their troubles... The communication problems that exist cause us to often miss-communicate what we are experiencing. What needs to happen in this case is a study of the difficulties arising from Aspie/NT interactions gone bad. Once conventions are formed and become easily understood, people will be able to describe their experiences more accurately and knowing how to term their experience will lead to more social endurance.

I've seen a concept stated in literature where someone says to their enemy "you don't even know what I can do to you" or "I will show you some proverbial hell like you have never known." What is being played at here are creating experiences for an enemy that exist outside their known conventions. The same principle is used in the "provoke" tactic in times of war or in order to instigate war or strife between people and alienate subordinates from their leader. Psychological warfare if you will.

The situation, though not intended, is very much similar to what an aspie experiences when they can't describe what is happening to them. In fact the only time I have had outbursts, it was in situations I couldn't explain, or where my explanations were too complex for most to understand. There is a definite cause for aspie strife, but it goes unrecognized because it is hard to describe and a convention of it is hard to pin down. This is where culture comes in. Getting a bunch of aspies together in a community to experience each other's lives and form these conventions of understanding that could be made into books marketed to both us and NTs.

interesting ideas but my point is that i believe it is me that must strive to fit into NT society, and that NT society has no obligation to assist me with that.

I like NT's too,but I do need space. That is a very good point: how much of our behaviour is consciously directed to create our social spaces and maintain our separatism? If it does come down to anti encroachment then I don't think we need a potentially antagonistic collective ,rather more effective social skills and quiet determination . I really do understand what it means when an NT can't grasp the meaning of "leave me alone",but there are worse things than an in your face hyper-sociable NT. Maybe need to be more anthropologists less urban guerillas . If you think about it we already demand and often get more territory per head than they do.

The fact of the matter is that we can't 'fight' poor treatment by NT's the way activists 'fight' racism and sexism. We're not a culture, and we are only discriminated against according to our actions, not simply what we are. It's their world and, like Hyperlexian said, we have to fit into it.