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25 Apr 2012, 8:30 pm

I just discovered this character on the parody news network The Onion. What do you guys think? Is this offensive to people on the spectrum? Personally, I can't manage to find it offensive since it is (a) so funny, and (b) so uncannily accurate, although obviously exaggerated for comic effect. It's not just some lazy representation; they did their research. He stims when he gets excited, he moves quickly and erratically, he finds it difficult when people don't say what they mean, and he does not understand human customs that seem illogical, such as caring about retrieving a dead body even though you know that the person is dead.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tInDH2FeXaM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D04wb7P_v-4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx5WJjXmuQI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpxxXYt4XGQ[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9hHDooAX4[/youtube]



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25 Apr 2012, 9:02 pm

I hadn't seen all of them, but I don't find it offensive. Sometimes making people laugh is the best way to spread awareness. People are more likely to remember something that made them feel good and laughing makes people feel good.



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25 Apr 2012, 9:34 pm

Posted these earlier and the actor really has AS, its an exaggerated version of himself, why it comes off as accurate.



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25 Apr 2012, 10:48 pm

If the actor himself is autistic I think that takes a lot of the potential offensiveness out of it.
I felt like in the first one autism was the punchline which I'm not a huge fan of simply because I know I would be uncomfortable if I was watching with an NT person and they were laughing.
I liked that last one though because they were using an autistic character to point out absurdity instead of the character himself being the joke.


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25 Apr 2012, 10:49 pm

It's kind of a one time joke to me, after that it gets repetitive.



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26 Apr 2012, 12:27 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
If the actor himself is autistic I think that takes a lot of the potential offensiveness out of it.
I felt like in the first one autism was the punchline which I'm not a huge fan of simply because I know I would be uncomfortable if I was watching with an NT person and they were laughing.
I liked that last one though because they were using an autistic character to point out absurdity instead of the character himself being the joke.


I agree, the first one is definitely the worst of the lot. The joke in the first one seems to be "autistic people don't care about people", which is a bit mean-spirited and not really true. The second one also makes the character into the punchline, but in a less mean-spirited way. The third, fourth and fifth involve the humour being derived from his unique worldview coming into contact with a confusing reality. The "missing hikers" one is my favourite (fourth one), although you can't get it in good quality on Youtube.

Mankey wrote:
Posted these earlier and the actor really has AS, its an exaggerated version of himself, why it comes off as accurate.


Ah, that explains (a) why the acting is so good, and (b) why The Onion felt that they were "allowed" to make a character like this.



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26 Apr 2012, 9:09 am

is there a real autistic reporter there parabling


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26 Apr 2012, 3:28 pm

Offensive? No.

Often uncomfortably realistic? Yes.

Usually pretty damn funny? Yes.



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28 Apr 2012, 4:44 pm

lol at number 3- I've often thought that arguments against jailing criminals because they have AS missed to point... :P



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28 Apr 2012, 11:45 pm

Jory wrote:
Offensive? No.

Often uncomfortably realistic? Yes.

Usually pretty damn funny? Yes.


What Jory said :wink:



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29 Apr 2012, 7:43 am

It all depends on whether you have a functioning sense of humour. Most jokes are at someone's expense.
This is a lousy example but I couldn't think of a better one: are there many French people who find the baguette carrying, stripy-shirted, frog-leg-and-snail-eating stereotype very offensive? There must be some, but I doubt there are particularly many.
Having said that, I'm not in the best mood with France at the moment, after having discovered that its abusive psychologists are living in the dark-ages. That was a bit of a tangent, but I can't stop thinking about it.


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29 Apr 2012, 8:18 am

Oh, I've never liked the French. I have a prejudice against the French.



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29 Apr 2012, 8:37 am

Sparkstorm wrote:
It all depends on whether you have a functioning sense of humour. Most jokes are at someone's expense.
This is a lousy example but I couldn't think of a better one: are there many French people who find the baguette carrying, stripy-shirted, frog-leg-and-snail-eating stereotype very offensive? There must be some, but I doubt there are particularly many.
Having said that, I'm not in the best mood with France at the moment, after having discovered that its abusive psychologists are living in the dark-ages. That was a bit of a tangent, but I can't stop thinking about it.


Having a functioning sense of humor is part of it but jokes like that can be really un-funny when some people really think the things they are portraying are true and some people use those ideas/stereotypes to hurt the people the joke is at the expense of.


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29 Apr 2012, 8:58 am

If this is how neurotypicals view autistics then we are screwed.



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30 Apr 2012, 12:05 am

androbot2084 wrote:
If this is how neurotypicals view autistics then we are screwed.
Sadly I think this is what 90% of NTs see us. I dont find it offensive though because sometimes we got to make fun of ourselves. I make my sister laugh by immitating Rain man and Im autistic. I make fun of myself from time to time. No self hate involved just comedy.


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30 Apr 2012, 1:02 am

While we're on the subject of humorous takes on autism, here's a bit from the Ricky Gervais Show:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHF4W378SeA[/youtube]