The Science of One-Night Stands

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18 May 2012, 4:00 am

http://healthland.time.com/2009/08/11/t ... ht-stands/

^ so the path of one-night stands that some male members preach here isn't at all easier....


Average-good-looking/average-looking/ugly guys, you are better off with the long term attempts instead.



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18 May 2012, 4:24 am

Yes. Pretty much.



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18 May 2012, 4:26 am

The costs of mating with less than perfect (whatever the hell that means in evolutionary psychology this week) mates are much higher for women. That explains everything from pre-menstrual emotional hypersensitivity to variation between sex drives in men and women to comparative "universal willingness" in men.


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18 May 2012, 4:35 am

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researchers sent young men and women on the prowl at a Florida university, instructing them to approach people attractive enough that they would actually consider sleeping with them, and within two sentences of conversation, see if they would agree to a date, a trip back to the questioner’s apartment, or a roll in the hay. (Presumably, for research purposes they didn’t actually need to follow through on the request, merely record the response.) Whereas no women would sleep with the investigators, and only 3% agreed to go back to their apartments, a full 75% of men agreed to sleep with the female questioners, regardless of how cute they were.

I'm not surprised at mainstream men being so sexually willing. It's only enlightened selfishness on my part that makes me different. Just that the idea of finding out whether a woman wanted to sleep with me within 2 sentences of conversation blows my mind. Are one-night standers really that blunt?

The other interesting thing is that women still seem to be the gatekeepers of sexuality, at least when there's nothing but lust on the table.......if they were as gung-ho about sex as the men, everybody would be at it like knives all the time.



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18 May 2012, 4:42 am

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researchers sent young men and women on the prowl at a Florida university, instructing them to approach people attractive enough that they would actually consider sleeping with them, and within two sentences of conversation, see if they would agree to a date, a trip back to the questioner’s apartment, or a roll in the hay. (Presumably, for research purposes they didn’t actually need to follow through on the request, merely record the response.) Whereas no women would sleep with the investigators, and only 3% agreed to go back to their apartments, a full 75% of men agreed to sleep with the female questioners, regardless of how cute they were.

I'm not surprised at mainstream men being so sexually willing. It's only enlightened selfishness on my part that makes me different. Just that the idea of finding out whether a woman wanted to sleep with me within 2 sentences of conversation blows my mind. Are one-night standers really that blunt?

The other interesting thing is that women still seem to be the gatekeepers of sexuality, at least when there's nothing but lust on the table.......if they were as gung-ho about sex as the men, everybody would be at it like knives all the time.


"The science of one-night stands among THE COLLEGE-AGED CROWD" would have been a far more accurate title.
Depends on what we mean by "gatekeepers"- if we mean whether or not sh*t's going down at all, then...maybe. In the West. In certain scenes.


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18 May 2012, 4:46 am

I have a feeling that the statistics are rendered inaccurate by the fact that many of the men may have only stated they would sleep with the female questioners out of pride. Many men in our society feel they need to appear virile, so regardless of their true feelings these (young) men may have answered 'Yes' simply to appear like macho men! And when it comes to the women, they may have been more reluctant to admit a desire to sleep with a random stranger because of the negativity surrounding women who appear to be promiscuous.



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18 May 2012, 4:48 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:
The costs of mating with less than perfect (whatever the hell that means in evolutionary psychology this week) mates are much higher for women. That explains everything from pre-menstrual emotional hypersensitivity to variation between sex drives in men and women to comparative "universal willingness" in men.



I don't think one-night standers operate in an evolutionary-conscious way.

The simple reason why female one night standers go only for the very attractive guys is due to the high demand, hence they can afford to pick the best of the best-looking for a fling.



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18 May 2012, 4:50 am

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I have a feeling that the statistics are rendered inaccurate by the fact that many of the men may have only stated they would sleep with the female questioners out of pride. Many men in our society feel they need to appear virile, so regardless of their true feelings these (young) men may have answered 'Yes' simply to appear like macho men! And when it comes to the women, they may have been more reluctant to admit a desire to sleep with a random stranger because of the negativity surrounding women who appear to be promiscuous.


Still. 75% to 3%? I dunno.


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18 May 2012, 4:52 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
The costs of mating with less than perfect (whatever the hell that means in evolutionary psychology this week) mates are much higher for women. That explains everything from pre-menstrual emotional hypersensitivity to variation between sex drives in men and women to comparative "universal willingness" in men.



I don't think one-night standers operate in an evolutionary-conscious way.



Oh? They're some magical exception to millions of years of sexual-selection programming that we see evidenced in every other type of human reproductive strategy?

Oookay.


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18 May 2012, 5:03 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:
"The science of one-night stands among THE COLLEGE-AGED CROWD" would have been a far more accurate title.

Well spotted........the sample isn't necessarily representative of humankind. Especially in the age department, and I suppose most teenagers who have just escaped parental control for the first time are likely to be a tad licentious when it comes to sexuality.

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Depends on what we mean by "gatekeepers"-

I mean women are generally still the ones with the motivation to say no to sex.



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18 May 2012, 5:06 am

*Puts on tinfoil hat*



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18 May 2012, 5:09 am

ToughDiamond wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
"The science of one-night stands among THE COLLEGE-AGED CROWD" would have been a far more accurate title.

Well spotted........the sample isn't necessarily representative of humankind. Especially in the age department, and I suppose most teenagers who have just escaped parental control for the first time are likely to be a tad licentious when it comes to sexuality.

Well, it would have been titled such in academia, but the thread title references a pop-culture reprint, and they never fail to screw things up with headlines. :)
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Depends on what we mean by "gatekeepers"-

I mean women are generally still the ones with the motivation to say no to sex.

Gotcha.


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18 May 2012, 5:11 am

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
*Puts on tinfoil hat*


I know, right? :lol:


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18 May 2012, 5:14 am

ZX_SpectrumDisorder wrote:
*Puts on tinfoil hat*

http://berkeley.intel-research.net/arahimi/helmet/
The science of tinfoil hats.

Erm.......how do you think such a device will help you in this current situation?



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18 May 2012, 5:31 am

ValentineWiggin wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
ValentineWiggin wrote:
The costs of mating with less than perfect (whatever the hell that means in evolutionary psychology this week) mates are much higher for women. That explains everything from pre-menstrual emotional hypersensitivity to variation between sex drives in men and women to comparative "universal willingness" in men.



I don't think one-night standers operate in an evolutionary-conscious way.



Oh? They're some magical exception to millions of years of sexual-selection programming that we see evidenced in every other type of human reproductive strategy?

Oookay.

Yes there is
http://www.psmag.com/culture/casual-sex ... all-28451/
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/ ... ickier_men
And ive also read one that indicated the reason for women being pickier is because they are the "gatekeepers", the study made two groups of people (men/women) and first made men approach women. The men were less picky about who to approach and women more picky about who approached them. They then made women approach and men be the gatekeepers and then the women were less picky over who they approached and men more picky over who approached them.

So yes, there is a magical exception to reproductive strategy, because casual sex is not a reproductive strategy but an emotional one



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18 May 2012, 5:32 am

Negative waves maaaan.