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16 Jun 2012, 11:53 am

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
This is where evolution and natural selection occur though. Species adapt this way.


Or they get wiped out and replaced.

Won't don't you volunteer to have some japanese knotweed in your garden and don't bother bringing along any of it's predators.

After it has killed off everything else in your garden and destroyed the foundations to your house, perhaps you will be more inclined to say bugger off to evolution and napalm it with extreme prejudice.

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16 Jun 2012, 12:20 pm

It's evolution to tell other organisms to get out of volatile ecosystems so your food production and natural areas aren't affected by them. By doing this, by preventing foreign species from spreading, we asserted once more that we're meant to survive. If you know how to do something about a problem and don't, you're setting yourself up for evolutionary failure. You're the dinosaur looking up to a comet from a rocket you don't want to launch.



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16 Jun 2012, 12:31 pm

What a small world we live on.

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16 Jun 2012, 12:34 pm

Pretty much.

The religious belief that we are somehow separate and special not a part of nature has a lot to blame in the way people think about issues like this.

Intelligence is one of the most successful evolutionary inventions of all time, despite being a fairly pathetic specimen physically we have to go out of our way to try and avoid wiping out much bigger and stronger apex predators and we can even use that intelligence to wage deliberate war against bacteria and viruses.

I wonder if the people that are so keen on preserving all species even if we don't like them would volunteer to play host bubonic plague or cholera so they too can live fulfilling lives?



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17 Jun 2012, 9:02 am

We already have Japan to thank for kudzu, and for the Japanese beetle.

We dont need more invading organisms from there.

BTW @vigilins: thats fascinating about that hornet. Never heard of it before. That would be a disaster if it came to america!

Not to single out Japan.

The whole length of America is overrun with starlings.
But starlings are not native to North America, but to Europe.

In 1890 there were no starlings in the USA.

A few years later a group of people released about 100 starlings (caught wild in Great Britain) into New York City's Central Park. Those 100 birds spawned all of the huge flocks of starlings you see today everywhere in the USA!

The reason these folks released those original birds into central park?
They were a club of literary enthusiasts who's mission was to introduce into America all of the birds mentioned in the works of Shakespeare!