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ArrantPariah
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16 Jun 2012, 5:25 pm

Religions typically concern themselves with the afterlife, or with life after death. A number of religions offer their adherents entry into a special Heaven, with non-adherents (and perhaps non-sincere or non-predestined adherents) consigned to everlasting torment in Hell.

What was the Deity's purpose in creating Heaven for those who were informed of and believed in His Plan of Salvation?

Is it just so that He can spend eternity being flattered, and being entertained with non-stop Hymns of Praise and Harp music? Or, what is God really up to?

For those of you who think that God is a fairy tale and Heaven a bunch of silliness: imagine yourself as God. Why did you create Heaven to house your human admirers, and what are you going to do with them?



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16 Jun 2012, 5:52 pm

If I were God, I would set up a busy and interesting afterlife that everyone gets to go to.

It wouldn't be monotonous, it would be another large and intricate world just like this one, but with some differences to make it more interesting. People would spend their endless time building magnificent pet projects, becoming experts in a chosen field, having fun with friends visiting other people's magnificent pet projects, and working as teams to explore huge uncharted areas filled with wonderful surprises. I would make it so that people naturally live forever in this afterlife but can decide to stop living whenever they want. (After they have given a century's notice, to avoid rash decisions.)

This is just example #2564 of how your average bloke on the street could do a much better job at being God than God apparently does.



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16 Jun 2012, 6:18 pm

As God, how would you personally benefit from such a Heaven?



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16 Jun 2012, 6:32 pm

Lol I haven't even worked out how God benefits from Humans or Earth.



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16 Jun 2012, 6:43 pm

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Lol I haven't even worked out how God benefits from Humans or Earth.


Amusement value.


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16 Jun 2012, 6:57 pm

Supposedly, if I assert to know, beyond any doubt, that God loved me so much, that He gave me His only begotten Son to die a horrible death that I might spend eternity with Him either after death or after rapture, then I am saved and my place is fully reserved. If I am correct, then I get something out of the deal. I don't really see what God is really up to, if this scenario is correct, or why God would bother going to all this trouble. Just entertainment, I suppose. I can't think of a better reason.



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16 Jun 2012, 7:09 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
Religions typically concern themselves with the afterlife, or with life after death. A number of religions offer their adherents entry into a special Heaven, with non-adherents (and perhaps non-sincere or non-predestined adherents) consigned to everlasting torment in Hell.

What was the Deity's purpose in creating Heaven for those who were informed of and believed in His Plan of Salvation?

Is it just so that He can spend eternity being flattered, and being entertained with non-stop Hymns of Praise and Harp music? Or, what is God really up to?

For those of you who think that God is a fairy tale and Heaven a bunch of silliness: imagine yourself as God. Why did you create Heaven to house your human admirers, and what are you going to do with them?


Heaven is strictly for the goyim.

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16 Jun 2012, 7:36 pm

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Heaven is strictly for the goyim.

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Then with what scary stories did Rabbis make Jewish children behave?



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16 Jun 2012, 11:03 pm

God wanted an efficient way to compute infinite series. As a low-tech omnipotent being, who understands times very differently from us, he created a series of species with different growth rates, accumulated the dead ones in some random place, kept a complete record of their ever-growing dead population at different times; and if he wanted the result of this or that series after so many iterations, he would find the "heaven" population of the adequate species at the adequate time. But, lo! the results were inaccurate! so he decided to sanitize his results by arbitrarily putting a number of the dead population is another random place -- which we would call "sinners".



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16 Jun 2012, 11:36 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Heaven is strictly for the goyim.

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Then with what scary stories did Rabbis make Jewish children behave?


Stories about being poor.

Jewish views of poverty, wealth and charity


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16 Jun 2012, 11:39 pm

The religious right teaches that heaven will be pure capitalism.



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16 Jun 2012, 11:48 pm

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Heaven is strictly for the goyim.

ruveyn


Then with what scary stories did Rabbis make Jewish children behave?


Jewish afterlife beliefs are vague as such things go.

There is no real equivalent to hell (or the devil for that matter), but there is something analogous to the catholic concept of purgatory.

Heaven in the Christian sense does not exist, although the "world to come" or messianic age might be called "heaven on earth" if one wished to stretch the definition.

It is supposedly open both to qualifying Jews and non-Jews who satisfied a separate, less stringent set of requirements (the Noahide Laws).


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17 Jun 2012, 12:12 am

Anyway, according to the rich, there has to be both rich people and poor people in heaven.



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17 Jun 2012, 12:18 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
As God, how would you personally benefit from such a Heaven?


People would be grateful to me, and I would enjoy creating new regions of the afterlife and seeing people's reactions when they explore them. I would make friends with lots of people in the afterlife and treat them as equals.



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17 Jun 2012, 12:28 am

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Anyway, according to the rich, there has to be both rich people and poor people in heaven.


According the gospels it is "easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle" than for a rich man to get in.

I'm doubt demanding superior accommodations (divine "skybox" seats if you will :) ) would help their case.


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17 Jun 2012, 5:31 am

I always wondered one thing about the religious view of heaven. It's supposed that people goes to hell/heaven for the whole eternity. So, if you have been a good boy for 70 years then you can go to heaven, be and a**hole for the whole eternity and enjoy the heaven nonetheless?

This is better than a life contract as civil servant... :D