Could the holocaust have been due to prohibition of cannabis

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Mootoo
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02 Jul 2012, 11:55 pm

A bit of a stretch, I know, and I'm basing this off a random story I found online http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life- ... ede-941546 - but seriously, if Hitler smoked before deciding he wanted to eliminate a race, would he still have gone through with it?

As an extension I'd say that if most people in the world did there wouldn't even be any wars.



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03 Jul 2012, 12:42 am

i don't think so. i've known of more than a few people who both smoked and held questionable beliefs. besides, if the entire world smoked cannabis, half of us would be paranoid and delusional. and wouldn't it be a tad fascist to enforce cannabis smoking on the entire world population?


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03 Jul 2012, 1:14 am

I think basing your theory (or any theory) on a single trailer trash family is absurd! :roll:


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03 Jul 2012, 1:26 am

To answer the OPs question um No.



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03 Jul 2012, 1:35 am

peebo, no such thing as enforcement. Just being liberal about it - paranoia probably arises out of prohibition itself, so the proportion will likely be fractional.



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03 Jul 2012, 5:35 am

wouldn't have happend if everyone had gotten stoned instead.



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03 Jul 2012, 6:14 am

When you target a public figure for death, and carry out your mission (like Lee Harvey Oswald did) what are you called?

you're called an "ASSASSIN".

And where did the word "assassin" come from?

It came from the Arabic word "Hasheshian".

Where did THAT word come from?

From a medeaval cult of guys who woould murder people, and who would prep themselves for murder by gettign stoned on hashish ( hense the name "hashishian").

Need I say more?



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03 Jul 2012, 6:29 am

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The name "Assassin" is often said to derive from the Arabic Hashishin or "users of hashish",[1] to have been originally derogatory and used by their adversaries during the Middle Ages. However Amin Malouf states that "The truth is different. According to texts that have come down to us from Alamut, Hassan-i Sabbah liked to call his disciples Asasiyun, meaning people who are faithful to the Asās, meaning 'foundation' of the faith. This is the word, misunderstood by foreign travelers, that seemed similar to 'hashish'".


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not that the notion the OP presents is anymore plausible for it..


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03 Jul 2012, 6:30 am

No. AFAIK the Nazi's were cooking meth anyway. Hitler probably didn't need syphilis in that case to have his brain turn to Swiss cheese and there's little chance that smoking some weed with his crank would have changed things much.


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03 Jul 2012, 7:53 am

Oodain wrote:
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The name "Assassin" is often said to derive from the Arabic Hashishin or "users of hashish",[1] to have been originally derogatory and used by their adversaries during the Middle Ages. However Amin Malouf states that "The truth is different. According to texts that have come down to us from Alamut, Hassan-i Sabbah liked to call his disciples Asasiyun, meaning people who are faithful to the Asa¯s, meaning 'foundation' of the faith. This is the word, misunderstood by foreign travelers, that seemed similar to 'hashish'".


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not that the notion the OP presents is anymore plausible for it..


Interesting.

"people who adhere to the foundation of the faith"- in other words "fundamentalists".

Assassins were originally not potheads but fundies.

However there was a PBS show showing forensic scientists reconstructing the famous battle in south africa (depicted in the movie Zulu starring Micheal Caine)between the brits and the Zulus. Alot of it involved reconstructing what mix of pot the Zulu warriors were stoked on.
They had some special mix that was condusive to fearlessness in battle.

Ill grant the op that a trailor full of potheads will likely have less domestic violence than a trailer full of drunks. They may be all lazy and unemployed, but they will be less violent than a group of hop heads.

But Islamic cultures are the reverse of the Pot-hostile and alcohol friendly Christian Euro-American cultures-(alcohol hostile, but weed friendly) but that openness to hashish doesnt stop suicide bombings in Iraq and Syrian dictators from commiting mass murder.



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03 Jul 2012, 10:55 am

if hitler had been stoned, he wouldn't even have had the motivation to run for office, or do anything productive.



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03 Jul 2012, 11:34 am

Mootoo wrote:
peebo, no such thing as enforcement.


understand, was just thinking from the point of view of most of the world's population smoking. i don't think "most" of them would necessarily want to out of choice.

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Just being liberal about it - paranoia probably arises out of prohibition itself, so the proportion will likely be fractional.


not so sure about this either, i do numerous things that are considered illegal, but they don't make me paranoid the way having a smoke will.

and i do observe, both in terms of myself in the distant past, and others i've known over the years, that regular smokers can have something of a tendency to live in a mildy delusional reality. i also observe it causing marked increase in anxiety in those prone to it.

not that i'm knocking cannabis per se or in favour of it's continued prohibition, just some observations i've made over the years.


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03 Jul 2012, 1:33 pm

Weed isn't known for giving life changing experiences like acid or shrooms does. So no.



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03 Jul 2012, 1:39 pm

Of course it was, nobody would be fighting wars and rounding up Jews if they were all sitting on beanbag futons with shag carpeting underfoot, piffing off glass bongs and solving all the world's problems baked step by baked step


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03 Jul 2012, 1:48 pm

Most people that smoke weed, don't plan. On commiting masse geneocide or ethnic cleanessing.



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03 Jul 2012, 2:43 pm

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