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14 Jul 2012, 6:56 pm

It seems kind of interesting that the majority of former Christians that are Agnostic/Atheist used to be Catholic. I imagine there are some Protestant and Quaker ones too, but idk. Kind of interesting.



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14 Jul 2012, 7:10 pm

Not so surprising, Catholicism is the single largest Christian denomination. I'd expect a very large number of former Christians to come from a Catholic background.

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14 Jul 2012, 7:46 pm

I guess if you look at it historically, Catholicism used to make a larger part of Christianity. And it has only been in recent times that Protestantism has made major inroads into religious circles. Also, Catholicism tends to be more united that Protestantism. So the numbers account for all Catholics, and not so much with Protestants.



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19 Jul 2012, 3:11 am

zacb wrote:
It seems kind of interesting that the majority of former Christians that are Agnostic/Atheist used to be Catholic. I imagine there are some Protestant and Quaker ones too, but idk. Kind of interesting.


Can you post a link for your source of info about this? Maybe they go into percentages.


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19 Jul 2012, 3:32 am

Former Christians need a hymn.

How about:

March on Former Christians, marching to the fore
No more bloody nonsense ... as we did before
No more communion, no more confessions too
No more guilt and no more shame and illogic too....

Sung to the tune of March on Christian Soldiers.

Feel free to add on.

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20 Jul 2012, 5:25 am

ruveyn wrote:
Former Christians need a hymn.

How about:

March on Former Christians, marching to the fore
No more bloody nonsense...as we did before
No more communion, no more confessions too
No more guilt and no more shame and illogic too....


[CHORUS]

So I've left The Church, just couldn't take anymore
No more prolonged masses...as they were a bore
No more wooden crosses, nor avodah zarah
No more bread and no more wine, though best wine by far...

[CHORUS]

We are no minority, leaving like a flood
Nonsense Christian scriptures...claim their word is G-d's
No more 'St Mary', no more Jesus Christ
No more priests and no more Pope, we don't need your advice...



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20 Jul 2012, 6:38 am

I used to be Catholic too. My Dad and I stopped going to mass during the time when there was a lot of news about paedo priests, mainly in Ireland. The Catholic Church in Scotland is very closely associated with the church in Ireland, because that's where the majority of Catholics in Scotland have roots. Each Sunday, our priest would give us his sermon and at no time did he ever mention what was going on within the church, not even subtly. Both my Dad and I found it very hard to take 'lectures' from him (not that he was one of the paedos) and we stopped going. My Dad is still a believer, just a non-attender, but over time, I've become agnostic.


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20 Jul 2012, 6:42 am

zacb wrote:
It seems kind of interesting that the majority of former Christians that are Agnostic/Atheist used to be Catholic. I imagine there are some Protestant and Quaker ones too, but idk. Kind of interesting.
I was Anglican for most of my life; went to an Anglican primary school, went to a Catholic secondary school. Then I became "born again" for a short spell of a few months, but then I had a revelation (the non-Xian kind) at the most random time- when I was revising for my RE GCSE on Catholicism and realized the religions faults. After that attended a Unitarian Universalist "Church" about 2 or 3 times. Somehow, I believe (but I obviously don't know for sure), that G-d has been the one telling me this. Therefore, I'm probably one of a few FCs that are not Agnostic/Atheist because I still believe in G-d, but just in a different way; I strongly want to convert to Judaism, despite pressure from some of my family who believe I'm going to hell.



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20 Jul 2012, 8:20 am

I'm a former Catholic and a former Quaker. I'm now an atheist Buddhist.


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20 Jul 2012, 8:36 am

There was a half-attempt at christianity. My parents were agnostic, but sent me to a protestant elementary school.
Had to pray twice a day; once to say thanks for the new day, and once to say thanks for a day of school.

Now, there's one thing protestant schools should know - if you have to thank God for school, you won't like God all that much.



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20 Jul 2012, 3:53 pm

LMAO!! at the...err...hymn.

Keep it coming!



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20 Jul 2012, 4:40 pm

Mummy_of_Peanut wrote:
I used to be Catholic too. My Dad and I stopped going to mass during the time when there was a lot of news about paedo priests, mainly in Ireland. The Catholic Church in Scotland is very closely associated with the church in Ireland, because that's where the majority of Catholics in Scotland have roots. Each Sunday, our priest would give us his sermon and at no time did he ever mention what was going on within the church, not even subtly. Both my Dad and I found it very hard to take 'lectures' from him (not that he was one of the paedos) and we stopped going. My Dad is still a believer, just a non-attender, but over time, I've become agnostic.


Similar for me, though I became agnostic before I left the church. I was confirmed by Cardinal Mahony, one of the central figures in the sexual abuse cover-up over here. I'd already been having serious doubts about the church (and about christianity in general). the religious would call it a "crisis of faith," I call it "coming to my damn senses." and was already at the point where I was only attending mass and associating with the church for the sense of community, and because the familiarity was comforting. His role in covering up priests' abuse of children was the last straw, and I severed all ties with the church.


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23 Jul 2012, 2:12 pm

I find woshipping a dead guy nailed to two pieces of wood is pretty morbid tbh

Im a former Catholic also, if anyone is interested the Freedom From Religion Foundation sells Debaptismal Certificates 2 for $5 they are signed by Dan Barker, former priest turned atheist who wrote the book Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist

Im gonna get one for me and my best friend, i just hate that technically im still legally a catholic because of my baptism, im gonna get the Debaptismal Certificate to sever my ties once and for all.

“first they came for the AI,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t an AI.
Then they came for the cyborgs,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a cyborg.
Then they came for the transhumanists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a transhumanist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak out for me.”


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23 Jul 2012, 3:14 pm

KnarlyDUDE09 wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Former Christians need a hymn.

How about:

March on Former Christians, marching to the fore
No more bloody nonsense...as we did before
No more communion, no more confessions too
No more guilt and no more shame and illogic too....


[CHORUS]

So I've left The Church, just couldn't take anymore
No more prolonged masses...as they were a bore
No more wooden crosses, nor avodah zarah
No more bread and no more wine, though best wine by far...

[CHORUS]

We are no minority, leaving like a flood
Nonsense Christian scriptures...claim their word is G-d's
No more 'St Mary', no more Jesus Christ
No more priests and no more Pope, we don't need your advice...
I have an idea for the last verse:

[CHORUS]

Now I'm free from their crap, free t'do my bidding
To heck with my morals!- I'm only kidding
The words of this song, I hope that you have enjoyed
Show this to a Christian and, I'm sure they'll be annoyed.



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23 Jul 2012, 4:06 pm

TheKing wrote:
I find woshipping a dead guy nailed to two pieces of wood is pretty morbid tbh

Im a former Catholic also, if anyone is interested the Freedom From Religion Foundation sells Debaptismal Certificates 2 for $5 they are signed by Dan Barker, former priest turned atheist who wrote the book Losing Faith in Faith: From Preacher to Atheist

Im gonna get one for me and my best friend, i just hate that technically im still legally a catholic because of my baptism, im gonna get the Debaptismal Certificate to sever my ties once and for all.

“first they came for the AI,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t an AI.
Then they came for the cyborgs,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a cyborg.
Then they came for the transhumanists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a transhumanist.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak out for me.”


You can officially become an apostate from the Catholic Church, just so you know.



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23 Jul 2012, 5:34 pm

slave wrote:
LMAO!! at the...err...hymn.

Keep it coming!


Instead of a hymn, I would call it a "hmm," since it, instead, actually makes you think! :lol: :chin: :lol:


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