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Since there are Black Nationalists like the Black Panther Party and the New Black Panther Party and the Nation of Islam and it's Leader Louis Farrakhan believe the American and or the United States Government promotes White Supremacy and Racism and is Racist and White Supremacist than how do they explain as to why the American Government passed Civil Rights Laws Voting Rights Acts and Racial Integration Laws in the 1950's and the 1960's even before like during and after World War 2 the American Army was Integrated with all races serving in an Integrated Army ? Why would an Racist Government pass Civil Rights Laws and promote Racial Integration ? Is it like after the American Civil War the Slaves were free in law only and Civil Rights Laws were passed but Racism still existed ?

The Ten Point Plan

WE WANT AN IMMEDIATE END TO POLICE BRUTALITY AND MURDER OF BLACK PEOPLE, OTHER PEOPLE OF COLOR, All OPPRESSED PEOPLE INSIDE THE UNITED STATES.
We believe that the racist and fascist government of the United States uses its domestic enforcement agencies to carry out its program of oppression against black people, other people of color and poor people inside the united States. We believe it is our right, therefore, to defend ourselves against such armed forces and that all Black and oppressed people should be armed for self defense of our homes and communities against these fascist police forces.

http://www.blackpanther.org/TenPoint.htm

Usually, when faced with determining my opinion about something, I reverse the roles.

"We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of all white people!"
"...that all white people should be armed for self defense of our homes and communities."
"...its program of liberal oppression against white people, other people of European descent and the wealthy inside the United States."

Saying that is a crime here. Yup. These people aren't worth any more of my time.

Martin Luther King Jr.'s phone was tapped by the FBI, whom at first thought that King was a "communist." His every move was tracked by the FBI. Just the mere possibility of a successful civil rights movement in America scared the U.S. government.

And it goes deeper then just race relations. When King's wife tried to organize a tent city in Washington D.C., in a campaign known as the Poor Peoples' Campaign, wherein King planned to unite poor people from many backgrounds in an effort to demand jobs, unemployment insurance, a minimum wage increase, and affordable education, the police shut it down.

Not only did the government feel threatened by race relations, but they also felt threatened by class relations as well.



It was the result of pressure from below. The civil right's movement in America succeeded as the result of a variety of peaceful protest actions led and personified largely by King.

Seriously? It isn't a crime here. The part about being armed, if carried out, would break the law here - but saying we need to be armed is fine. The BNP say similar things about white people all the time and get away with it.

This debate reminds me of this guy. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEqa90XpPw0[/youtube]

Look at it this way:
***Martin Luther King had respect for all races and sought to unite people of all backgrounds. The Black Panthers have respect for what they think is only 1 race and lower class backgrounds.
***The US government still has pockets of racism, everywhere does. It was mostly crushed in the mid 20th century due to peer pressure, which has since turned into common agreement that racism is wrong.
***Much like a black man or woman has the same freedom of choice as any other American, they should also have equal consequence for their actions. This means they are no more immune for their wrongdoings and shouldn't be. If any person commits a crime they should be culpable.
***Check TSA, occupy, gun amnesty videos. Police brutality is across the board. What happened in New Orleans WILL happen in the rest of America should the same sort of crisis hit it.
***Your supposedly absolute racist government allowed Barack Obama into the White House. If they really opposed it they could have rigged the whole thing.
***White people are oppressed, too. Technically most people in the USA are oppressed. Your Bill of Rights, Constitution, and Human Rights are being violated every day in the name of freedom and liberty against terror. You have more in common with white people on this front than you think.
***Going back to Martin Luther King; he didn't contest for people like you, he fought to end what you refuse to accept you stand for - Racism.

The man in the video looks interesting. Especially as he seems to forget why society allows him to broadcast his half-lucid rants. He's not starving, or being murdered, or unable to broadcast after system failures because of the people running the system he despises, regardless of race - but most of the people keeping the system afloat are white. Thinking along pragmatic lines, there is much more to say for white people, or any other colour, than there is for black people. For one, countries governed by white people usually do not depend on foreign aid, while all African countries do. White people have gotten past the point of continuous infighting, and even when they did, the fighting accelerated technological and economic growth. Meanwhile, Africa - well, just take a look at Mali, or Somalia, or Libya, or Congo, Rwanda, or Zimbabwe, or Liberia, or many more countries.

People are fine regardless of anything, as long as they behave. As for this man, as he's hell-bent on black governance, I suggest a one-way ticket to Liberia and a short documentary following the days leading to his death.

The left tends to turn a blind eye to racism from people of color no matter how radical and hateful and instead focuses it's collective attention to anything the right does or has done no matter how indirect or how long ago it occurred.

I assume this moron hasn't got anything interesting to say? Black supremacists - charming bunch. As pleasant as white supremacists.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddRNy4MISkg[/youtube]It is amazing that the Liberal media tends to turn a blind eye against this as well.These guys are no better than the KKK and the Skinheads.

i may be misunderstanding you here, are you suggesting the black panthers had respect only for black people? this is not, in fact, the case. they were marxists, who believed in worldwide working class unity. they believed in economic and political equality across all races and genders.

see the last paragraph of the 10 point program:




although, perhaps you are inferring by one race, the human race, rather than some subsection of it? apologies if i have misconstrued your comment.

No I think you got what I was saying right. So if this is true, why are the more recent Black Panthers against any ethnicity that are caucasian? And why do they show a lot of hatred towards wealthier folk than them? Is this another case of a good cause overrun by bad people?

I'm part of the left, and I most certainly do not turn a blind eye to anti-white racism. Hell, I'm not even what most would consider white (though I look it, mixed Mexican and Jewish), and I still consider anti-white racism to be a major issue.

i'm assuming you're talking of the group that refers to themselves as the new black panther party. they've been roundly disowned by almost everyone including the surviving members of the original movement, and those in the huey newton foundation. as i recall they even tried to sue them to stop them using the black panther name, as they have digressed so far from the original aims and ethos of the original movement.

Honestly, I am tired of racial tribalism. I see myself as human, not as a member of some group based purely on the superficial issue of skin color. I didn't get to choose my race, so why be "proud" of it? As far as being armed, sure, go ahead and do it. In the end, you are ultimately responsible for your own safety and the safety of your family. However, doing it for "race war" type reasons is asinine. Do it because people, no matter what pigmentation their skin happens to have, are unpredictable and may mean you harm in order to rob, rape or murder you. In the end, we are all members of the human race and have a responsibility to respect each other no matter what superficial difference there happens to be between us.

The Black Panthers did indeed work across racial lines amongst the poor, working-class.

To assume that all of their cadre were supremacists just because the Black Panther Party tended to put greater emphasis on one particular race is erroneous.

More specifically concerning their ideology, they were Marxist-Leninist-Maoists. There are numerous photos of them holding up Mao Zedong's "Little Red Book" at Black Panther rallies.

There ideology borrowed heavily from 20th century communist thinkers: Lenin's right of nations to self-determination(I.E. the perceived right of African-Americans to from their own nation in the black belt region of the U.S.), Mao's concept of the mass-line(I.E. a form of mobilizing, leading, and ultimately directing the masses in revolution through a party or party-styled leadership), etc.

At the end of the day, the Black Panther Party believed in working-class/proletarian revolution; They saw themselves, in traditional Leninist fashion, as the vanguard of that revolutionary struggle to end exploitation of man-by-man.

According to Marx, Communism was to be the end of history. The Black Panther Party thus saw "building socialism" as leading towards a final society: communism.