Why ignore these facts about Obama's birth certificate?
I mean people can scream about how fake it is all they want and I doubt its really going to effect any government policy.
So, is there any basis at all for you to assume the certificate is fake beyond "He is black" and "government is evil"?
Also, these people "running the show", don't you think their lives would be easier if they chose an American citizen as their puppet president so they wouldn't risk losing the control of everything out of a technicality?
Oh I didn't realize I was assuming the certificate is fake.....I was more saying it probably wouldn't make much difference either way. I mean I doubt he's going to be impeached over such allegations and even if he were its not as though we're going to get someone much better.
And yeah it would make more sense for them to choose an American Citizen....but then again the idea that the birth certificate is fake helps to keep people divided and distracted.
I am kind of confused about when I ever implied that I assume its fake(I said its not unbelievable that it could be, not that I think it is) or that I assumed this because 'he's black' and 'the government is evil(I don't like the government but evil is a subjective term to me). So why you assumed that I am not sure.
Dont blame anyone for being baffled by what you said because what you said didnt make any sense to me either.
Considering I am not really on the 'fake birth certificate' bandwagon, and have no issue with Obama being black...am I supposed to just accept assumptions that I think those things?
The opposite of what you said makes sense.
That ONLY the powerful pretend to care about his birth certificate (like the Donald Trumps of the world). while the rest of us are worried about jobs and healthcare, and the like.
To the rest of us- the fact that obama was born 36 hours before his parents deplaned in the USA ( or the fact that Romney once hazed a gay kid when they were both school boys of 14) doesnt mean squat!
Its up to the ideologues (who look for any straw the can use against whichever candidate theyre gunning for) to persuade US to give a damn. Not the other way around!
Also I am not really sure how this is the opposite of what I said, or how it makes more sense....not to mention what I said was just one idea I had on the matter I wasn't arguing its the absolute truth of the matter. But nevermind I really don't care to make an idiot of myself trying to explain what I meant.
Just sayin that you were asking whether or not the powers at be "care about the issue" when the logical question would be "do I, Sweetleaf, care about this issue?"
I'm not so sure of that. Are you familiar with the "only Nixon could have gone to China" theory of politics? I think we've been seeing it lately; only W could have signed Medicare Part D, and only Obama could have signed assassination orders.
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Ever read Catch-22?
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Ever read Catch-22?
I have not, I'm afraid, but as I had seen a documentary on the novel, I understand the term.
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FYI ... America does not have a two-party system. At last count, there were over 30 active and registered political parties that could be represented on an American ballot. It is the fact that most of these parties represent too little of the electorate to make much difference in an election that gives people the impression that America has a two-party system. These parties are:
- America First Party
- American Party
- American Populist Party
- American Third Position Party
- Americans Elect
- America's Party
- Christian Liberty Party
- Citizens Party of the United States
- Communist Party of the United States of America
- Constitution Party
- Democratic Party
- Freedom Socialist Party
- Green Party
- Independence Party of America
- Independent American Party
- Jefferson Republican Party
- Justice Party
- Labor Party
- Libertarian Party
- Modern Whig Party
- National Socialist Movement
- Objectivist Party
- Party for Socialism and Liberation
- Peace and Freedom Party
- Prohibition Party
- Raza Unida Party
- Reform Party of the United States of America
- Republican Party
- Socialist Action
- Socialist Alternative
- Socialist Equality Party
- Socialist Party USA
- Socialist Workers Party
- United States Marijuana Party
- United States Pacifist Party
- United States Pirate Party
- Unity Party of America
- Workers World Party
SOURCE
NOTE: This list does not include literally hundreds of regional and local parties that spring up sporadically, only to fade away after an election.
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So, that's worked out so well for us that there's no reason at all to try and change it? "Everyone's doing it" is a sufficient rationalization for you to continue a destructive behavior?
Until a third party can legitimately prove to be a contender for the White House, the two party system is the only game in town. And the simple fact is, if the third party were either liberal or conservative, it would only serve to split the vote with the like minded party, allowing the opposing party to skate into victory.
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You could do with a genuinely left wing party (like, say, the Lid Dems from the UK), rather than a centre-right party like the Democrats who just seem liberal compared to the Republicans.
Am I right in saying the Libertarians are the third biggest party? They always struck me as too close to the Republicans, particularly when they try and claim Ron Paul as their own after he fails to get the GOP nomination.
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Because you have a non-racial axe to grind?
What axe? I'm only stating the obvious - that Obama's birth certificate is legit, and all criticism about its authenticity is facetious. A common sense stand like that doesn't require one to grind any axes.
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And why is that the only logical question? since when are you the authority on what a logical question is. Though it wasn't really a question it was more or less an assumption that to them it may not matter wether or not the birth certificate is real. I personally don't think there is sufficient evidence to prove it is fake so no to me its not a big deal.
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Just because someone isn't using common sense doesn't mean they're a racist. People who think the moon landings were faked aren't using common sense, but they aren't automatically racist because of it.
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