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trying be me or people like me.
Have bad social skills,can't read people, Don't understand
social humor, well sounds like most aspie but here where it gets
deepers. Folks with Learning Disability(LD) not only have these problems
But have trouble in all area's of life such as.... spelling,math,learning to drive,
puzzles, drawing,writting,riding a bike, throwing, tieing shoes, understanding logics,
memorizing, staying on task, etc,etc.

You see I envy folks like you guys. If I only had social problems I would be happy.
But when You have trouble in all things in life, It's alot harder. just google
learning disability and see for yourself

Yup. It's a much more difficult disorder to deal with. It's supposed to be similar to AS. They're not stupid. They can be quite intelligent and creative. They just have severe problems with straightforward logic. The community college in my county allows anonymous disclosure of some such disorders, which I think means mainly that the instructors will elaborate more extensively than they usually would on sets of concepts that those with LD are known to have trouble with. Fortunately, those with LD can sometimes work around their disability and bring out the best in themselves, given enough peer support.

I feel for you man. It sounds like LD really sucks. I guess the only advice I can offer is to find the little things in life that make you happy. Find your purpose in life, everyone has one.

billiscool,

MAN, Kelroy sounds like a kill joy!

Bill,

Let me tell you a secret. Almost EVERYONE has problems learning things from time to time. I'm lucky in that I found I learn concepts better than anything else. For computers, that works well.

The second thing that I do is try to see if it relates to something I know. If it does, learning it is a SNAP! Try visualizing. Not actually seeing it, but sensing it, if that makes sense. If that fails, there is always rote. Just repeat it over an over to yourself. Come back in 30 minutes or so, a day, a week, a month, 3 months, a year, 2 years. By then, you should pretty much know it forever. Above all? DO NOT GET DISCOURAGED!

HEY, you have an above average IQ. You can't be THAT bad off!

A couple months ago, it seemed like my memory STUNK! I coasted on confidence from what I had already achieved.

Steve

The grass is always greener, as they say...
I don't mean to belittle your condition, but I don't think suffering is all that easy to quantify and compare.

Consider disabled war veterans who can continue working, and those who can't.

It's not that losing limbs, eyes, or other important organs isn't unfortunate. It IS, and I certainly feel for those people.

But consider what happens to the people who joined the military because they had nowhere else, and they return home still fit to work? What are they going to do?

They end up in some menial job in fast food or retail to make ends meet with the supplementary funds they get from being honourably discharged from the military, which isn't enough to live off of, and if they had problems before joining the military, they may exist afterwards, resulting in them moving and changing jobs constantly, never able to remain stable.

I'm not going to say one person is better off than the other. It's really hard to picture what their life is like from their own perspective, but I can say that it's not as simple as tallying up injuries.


If you don't think I ever have moments where I would seriously like to be just like other people, including 'average' intelligence and interests in most fields, or that I've never felt miserable because of my thorough, cutting introspection, you'd be wrong.

Hi billiscool, sorry if my comment killed any joy. It was not intended that way. I have no idea what it is like to live with LD and felt posting anything else would sound pretentious. Take care

I don't think comparing disorders is a good idea. Asperger Syndrome is not an easy disorder to live with, and it has caused me much misery over the years. Socializing is something I'm clueless about. Saying that this is a trivial part of the disorder is very provoking. Everyone needs friends. I spend every day in my apartment all alone, and then it doesn't matter which talents I have since I have noone to share them with.
Now I understand that LD is hard to live with. My ex girlfriend had dyslexia(I assume these disorders are related?) and it caused her much depression and misery.

I often compare myself with someone who works for refuse services who has mild learning difficulties. I can’t really define his learning difficulties as such; I am surprised of what he knows just as much as I am surprised of what other NTs don’t know.

The major difference between is loneliness spoils my life but he doesn’t get lonely he just desires a lot of sex. When the guy get drunk that’s all he talk about; when I get drunk I become deeply depressed and lonely.

The good thing I have on my side is that I probably have more luck in the dating department then he does but at least he doesn’t get depressed.

It sounds like you do indeed have it worse than me, but I also had troubles with drawing, riding a bike, tying my shoes. I was in high school before I could read an analog clock.

I'm an Aspie (or HFA) with LD's too who almost flunked out of school and also was diagnosed with a mood disorder. Not all Aspies are geniuses who ace school, and I know many who do, but still can't hold a job. I also don't think it's fair to say one problem is worse than another. I know people with LD's who are doing great. it's the degree in which you are impaired, and the quality of help that you get. Lots of stuff mixed in

Well, I don't get about 70% of the social stuff, I cannot do any maths, not even 13+14 without having to think a lot, I have bad APD and I often can't speak straight. I don't think it's all that bad, I mean, heck, yes, everyone in school thinks I'm probably the dumbest person alive, at least in maths class and many of my teachers complain that I'm a mess at everything and I'm this short before failing school, but considering this all... I feel quite good, even while all these things do make me feel miserable at many times. I like to dramatise and need to do so, when I feel like it, but I don't want to give up, having to tell myself "well, you're too stupid to achieve anything" and forget about all the things I want to do!
I think we've all times that are filled with miserable feeling, these thoughts that say, we're the worst person on this planet and can't do anything right - sometimes even other people, family, friends, teachers, employers say this stuff, but I think it's worth a challange no matter how much one feels like complaining.
Anyways, personally, I love interacting with people, so to me it's a bigger issue that I'm so bad at that rather than that I fail maths class every school year for 8 years now. This 'worse than this, better than that' is a matter of opinion because of all our differences as people.

FYI: Autism is not a "social disorder". Yes, it includes social difficulties in multiple areas, but MUCH more is going on than just social problems. For a short nonexhaustive list:

*Executive Dysfunction and ADHD symptoms
*Sensory Processing Disorder
*coordination issues are common
*OCD issues (both the good-- obsessional interests-- and bad, where full-blown OCD can occur)
*LDs are also common
*social anxiety is common as well as just general anxiety
*language issues (expression--verbal and written-- and reception)
*seizure disorders (approx. 30% of the ASD population has epilepsy)

As anyone can see from the list above, ASDs are not simply a social deficit. Our entire brains are affected and so MANY MANY MANY symptoms arise.

So LDs are not something that many auties can understand, since quite a few have them as well.

Yes, with AS, our brains are wired very differently to the norm. AS is called a Pervasive Development Disorder because it affects so many different aspects of life.

I don't think having AS is harder or easier than LD, just different. Plus, I know of some people who have both or who have AS and ADHD. They find life very difficult but still manage to do some really good things.

Sophist is right. Asperger's is often considered to be a form of NVLD (Nonverbal Learning Disorder). I have severe visual-spatial deficits that I must compensate for with my photographic memory.
-OddDuckNash99-

Oh, and one other thing I'd like to point out is that, though some with AS have some advantages in terms of sophisticated thought, many have the same problems as those who have LD. Though they can often work their way around these problems, some cannot, and I think that there are some cases of people being diagnosed with both as a result. Also, the problem with social skills can make it difficult to gain and hold down a job, and one might inadvertantly insult a coworker or a fellow employee and end up with a record as a trouble-maker, particularly in states that don't have right to work laws, which is not good. Being at the bottom of the social ladder can get you cheated out of promotions and raises even if you deserve them more as well, given that managers and supervisors are apt to give those promotions to people whom they actually like. Oh, and, unfortunately, many positions of importance require one to have abundant communication skills, particularly supervisory positions. People with AS aren't going to have it "easy" unless they get enough education to put them in positions that require their particular skills and tendencies.

However, your only decent choice is to try. The alternative is unacceptable. It is uncontemplable. It is off limits. You must do what you need to succeed because, no matter where you end up, you have been a successful person as long as you have behaved as one. You are only a failure if you behave as one and call yourself one, for the only acceptable and truly worthwhile quality in a person is a will to succeed and to put out. It is sometimes the only thing that we really have a choice over.