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14 Mar 2019, 9:14 pm

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Did you know I thank you wholeheartedly for your help tonight, kortie .... otherwise I'd still be locked out?

Did you know Claradoon that these are some of my recurring dreams (in extreme abbreviation):


- going to a pet shop from my childhood to see the kittens and simultaneously looking out the door of the shopping centre into the dark, realising I would have to walk home alone to my parents' house in deep snow?
Kittens = warm, helpless, loving. But your own destiny is to go alone in the deep snow. Makes me think of the The Little Match Girl, looking at a warm happy home but destined to stand in the snow.

- being in the back or passenger seat of a fast car with no driver and having to reach around to take the wheel without being able to reach the pedals?
Nobody is driving your car, your life. Nobody is caring for you, keeping safe your ways. Some would react passively but you feel obliged to try the impossible, reach the wheel and the pedals. You don't give up, ever. The dream might sound like a warning to stop trying so hard? Timing of dream: were you driving at the time?

- watching an airplane crash in the distance and pointing at it, but being more curious than alarmed?
Responsible but remote. Emotional distance necessary to preserve the Self, who does not take in the horror?

- being in a big old house and the owners finally leave, so I can explore all the scary rooms that I've dreamed of before (it's always lucid), and sometimes the scary parts are upstairs but sometimes downstairs?
Here you dream again of a house. Any link to recent dream about shower?
Big old house - contains all of scary secrets lurking beyond Self?
The owners finally leave - now you have the power to investigate?
I envy your lucid dreams; I've never done that.



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14 Mar 2019, 9:21 pm

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What do you make of this dream from today, Claradoon?

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Not sure where to answer but I'll put it here. This'll be quick and kind of surface. Jungian analysis takes meditative thought. None of this is written in stone, it's only helpful hints. Jung said every dreamer is unique.

First, a house. The main floor is your public persona. The basement is your subconscious. The upper floor is your intellect. I can't remember what the attic is.

Water is consciousness. You open the water to clean your body (?) but it swamps your intellect. I wonder what ankle-deep is about. Very important: absolute barrier between upstairs and downstairs = barrier between Self and public persona?

Maybe that's enough for now. Remember there's only you in the dream; you are the water etc.


Did you know that's actually quite interesting??! Did you notice I was on the upper-floor of my house (intellect), or that the water had a side edge so it wouldn't go down the stairs (to my public persona)? Can you picture this: it looked like there was a glass barrier at the top of the stairs keeping the water in a straight line, upstairs?

Do you know I wish I could remember the church lady? Can you believe in the dream it was like "OMG this is a dream but I definitely do remember you from when I was three!" ? Do you know it seemed significant to see her and remember her, even in the dream?

Yes re upper floor and water's side edge, separating intellect and persona. An impermeable barrier? How do you feel about this? Do you think it might be true of you? A dream might point it out but awareness might be enough response; I note that you were unaware when you turned on the shower.

The Church Lady when you were 3 - Is this after you read of my dream with 3 Church Ladies? At any rate, never rush. You could traumatize yourself. It'll come when you're ready.



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14 Mar 2019, 9:26 pm

Do you know that the church lady wasn't traumatic but it was rather exciting to see her again, as if she was an important piece of my past?

Do you know it occurred to me that your three women in the Basilica might have triggered her appearance in my dream?

Do you know that's true about my public persona because even on WP I only share about 5% of my life story?


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14 Mar 2019, 9:28 pm

What did you think of the little match girl (kittens)?



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14 Mar 2019, 9:33 pm

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Do you know that the church lady wasn't traumatic but it was rather exciting to see her again, as if she was an important piece of my past?

Do you know it occurred to me that your three women in the Basilica might have triggered her appearance in my dream?

Do you know that's true about my public persona because even on WP I only share about 5% of my life story?

I don't think she was traumatic but now that you see her again, do not push memory and meaning more than the Self is ready to take.

Do you think she might have been One Fate? The age of 3 - literally age 3? What plotted your life?
Should you find her and start living the intended life of happiness?



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14 Mar 2019, 9:37 pm

Do you know my only memory of Sunday School is that my teacher traced everyone's body shape outline onto big pieces of paper for us to colour, but when I saw my 'shape' on the page I argued with my teacher that it was too small because there was no way my entire self / consciousness fit inside that finite shape as a representation of "me"?

Did you know I didn't use the words shape or consciousness, but that's what I meant, and that the argument was so serious that I actually quit Sunday School?

Did you know the lady in the dream said she worked with the bishops at a different church, and I don't think she was my actual teacher?


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14 Mar 2019, 9:39 pm

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What did you think of the little match girl (kittens)?


Do you know I think that's a really nice analogy?


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14 Mar 2019, 9:52 pm

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Do you know my only memory of Sunday School is that my teacher traced everyone's body shape outline onto big pieces of paper for us to colour, but when I saw my 'shape' on the page I argued with my teacher that it was too small because there was no way my entire self / consciousness fit inside that finite shape as a representation of "me"?

Did you know I didn't use the words shape or consciousness, but that's what I meant, and that the argument was so serious that I actually quit Sunday School?

Did you know the lady in the dream said she worked with the bishops at a different church, and I don't think she was my actual teacher?

This is fabulous! Imagine knowing that much consciously - how old were you at Sunday School?
I knew that the real world was nothing like the teachers said but there was no point in telling them.

So your Church lady came from Higher Thought (bishops) in another realm? Is it time to sew these threads of your life together? Slowly, slowly.

Would you like to paint these dreams?



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14 Mar 2019, 9:57 pm

May I say a word about repeat dreams? They are repeating because you didn't get the message. You are not in danger; in that case they would become nightmares, to get your attention. Each repetition of a dream is a repeat request to have you address it.
They say: Listen to the whispers; you won't have to hear the screams.



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15 Mar 2019, 4:10 am

@ Is - Am I thinking too much? The church lady when you were 3. Maybe, in Jungian fashion, you *are* 3 - that is to say, 3 persons, maybe 3 Fates. This awaits an Aha! reaction from you; on my part it's only speculation. But if that were the case, then *you* might be your own 3 Fates. As was true of my 3 church ladies - everything in the dream is the Self.



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16 Mar 2019, 11:53 pm

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What was your favourite childhood story?


Did you know that beyond AA Milne it was Carolyn Haywood's Here's a Penny, or Charlotte's Web and The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe?

What was yours?

Did you know my favourite childhood books were

The Kitten Who Thought He Was A Mouse
about a tiny kitten adopted by a family of mice, but who grew
so big he had to be returned to his real family, cats (the enemy).

Little Butterball
who got lost, and the mother hen ran trying to find him,
which was how I found out that being lost meant Mom
couldn't find me - Tolstoy couldn't beat it for emotional
shock.

I read Charlotte's Web for the first time as an adult but it
upset, something very bad was going to happen, I put it aside.

Lion Witch & Wardrobe I read as a young adult but it took decades
for me to figure out what a wardrobe was. It was only a distraction
so I didn't bother - I thought it was probably one of those odd
British things.

I haven't read AA Milne at all. A great gap in my formation.



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07 Apr 2019, 3:00 pm

Anyone still looking at this thread?

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07 Apr 2019, 3:16 pm

What's it to ya? :wink:


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07 Apr 2019, 3:25 pm

Do ya really want to know?


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07 Apr 2019, 5:27 pm

Did you know that we thought we were hogging the thread and decided to back off, but forgot to tell everybody?
Please, post at will!



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07 Apr 2019, 5:34 pm

Did you know that it’s a pleasure when I see Claradoon post?