Does all Japanese music sound similar to anyone else?
Ok wait, I need to make a personal exception for K-pop. It sounds exactly like American music to me, instead of having any distinct Korean sound. I don't really like it because it just sounds like the stuff I could hear if I turned on the radio.
Yep, that's why I don't like K-Pop and don't understand others fascination with it.
Um, a K-pop fan once told me that listening to K-pop is an excellent way to de-stress because K-pop songs are mostly cheerful and uplifting. Personally, I'm in awe of Japanese composers. (Many Chinese pop songs, especially those considered as oldies, are actually Japanese pop songs with their lyrics altered significantly.) I agree with Wikipedia that enka has strongly influenced Hokkien music in Taiwan and trot music in Korea.
To Ganondox: Here's the Chinese version of Kita Guni no Haru (North Country's Spring). Enjoy! (To be honest, I prefer the Japanese original.)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKv1WkSeQs4[/youtube]
To starryeyedvoyager: Hi, thanks a lot for enlightening me about the pentatonic scale.
I'm pleasantly surprised that so many well-known songs are composed according to the pentatonic scale.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpvfSOP2slk[/youtube]
It was directed to the Aboriginal Music part, not the Asian/Middle Eastern Music part, though the Aboriginal Music bit doesn't even seem to be at all related to this thread or the rest of you post unless you are implying that Asian/Middle Eastern Music is less musical because you don't like it.
the muslim morning wailings that get shouted in some sort of musically choreographed way through cheap microphones that feed cheap amplifiers atop each mosque that powers a speaker of the quality of a battery operated loud hailer, are very mundane in my opinion.
thank goodness that only happens over seas.
asian music is very restricted in it's capacity to elaborate upon the static core of it's genesis, and i do not like it.
in my subjective world, asian music is not considered to be dynamic and pliable to the point where surprise is possible. whatever, i do not like asian music.
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in my subjective world, asian music is not considered to be dynamic and pliable to the point where surprise is possible. whatever, i do not like asian music.
How to not like music like that?
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCercp1jDfE[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6SZDgMPHQA[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-0G_FI61a8&feature=related[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWMBG67Sweg[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLnYwCp7D6I[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqIu_0jVvv8[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7C2SOc5juM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YI5fD7Jbnuw[/youtube]
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It was directed to the Aboriginal Music part, not the Asian/Middle Eastern Music part, though the Aboriginal Music bit doesn't even seem to be at all related to this thread or the rest of you post unless you are implying that Asian/Middle Eastern Music is less musical because you don't like it.
the muslim morning wailings that get shouted in some sort of musically choreographed way through cheap microphones that feed cheap amplifiers atop each mosque that powers a speaker of the quality of a battery operated loud hailer, are very mundane in my opinion.
thank goodness that only happens over seas.
asian music is very restricted in it's capacity to elaborate upon the static core of it's genesis, and i do not like it.
in my subjective world, asian music is not considered to be dynamic and pliable to the point where surprise is possible. whatever, i do not like asian music.
I didn't ask any questions.
Musicality is subjective, which is why you shouldn't define what is music and what isn't.
I live "overseas".
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To Ganondox: Here's the Chinese version of Kita Guni no Haru (North Country's Spring). Enjoy! (To be honest, I prefer the Japanese original.)
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKv1WkSeQs4[/youtube]
Why is this directed to me?
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Ok wait, I need to make a personal exception for K-pop. It sounds exactly like American music to me, instead of having any distinct Korean sound. I don't really like it because it just sounds like the stuff I could hear if I turned on the radio.
Yep, that's why I don't like K-Pop and don't understand others fascination with it.
That's exactly why they like it, because it sounds like poppy American Music, only it's in Korean.
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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbwL8kSpEk[/youtube]
That song is in Korean, not Japanese. Girls' Generation (or Shoneo Shidae) did translate their latest albums and singles into Japanese to break through the Japanese market, though, with significant success.
Interestingly, they also attempted to make a break overseas in America and Europe near the end of 2011, by releasing a maxi-single of a song with English lyrics. While they promoted themselves in America in the winter of 2011/2012, their single didn't catch on, echoing past failures of other Korean acts such as Se7en, BoA, and Rain, all quite easily recognisable as mainstream K-Pop.
Then Gangnam Style happened last summer, and every South Korean was scratching their heads about how an off-beat rapper could succeed where the most slickly produced, dance-move busting, trend-following singers and groups failed. (EDIT: Well, to be fair, tight production, dance moves [the 'horseriding' dance], and following trends [Gangnam Style seems to closely follow the model of LMFAO's songs] are all present in PSY's song; but it isn't your standard K-Pop)
//tangent over.
I was going to comment on this thread's topic, but I lack the exposure to Japanese traditional music to add anything of substance to it. I find starryeyedvoyager's post to be a very enlightening one, though.
That's exactly why it caught on, because it was different. If you want to be exceptional, you need to be exceptional.
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in my subjective world, asian music is not considered to be dynamic and pliable to the point where surprise is possible. whatever, i do not like asian music.
How to not like music like that?...{avalanche of videos}
i guess there is no accounting for taste.
Musicality is subjective, which is why you shouldn't define what is music and what isn't.
your ears (mind) are yours, and i can not define what is music for you.
i am simply saying that i find asian and middle eastern music to be banal.
Musicality is subjective, which is why you shouldn't define what is music and what isn't.
your ears (mind) are yours, and i can not define what is music for you.
i am simply saying that i find asian and middle eastern music to be banal.
You said the muslim prayers only play overseas. I live "overseas".
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Musicality is subjective, which is why you shouldn't define what is music and what isn't.
your ears (mind) are yours, and i can not define what is music for you.
i am simply saying that i find asian and middle eastern music to be banal.
You said the muslim prayers only play overseas. I live "overseas".
yes well that is a feeble justification of your previous post but i will accept it because i could not be bothered to argue further with you.
good night.
Thanks for posting those two enka vids, Knives. I was exposed to some enka back when I listened to the Oricon chart weekly in 2010/2011.
@Ganondox; I realise Gangnam Style stands out more, but I find it somewhat amusing that the song became a hit in the West because the artist wasn't actually trying to catch on internationally, while the other acts like Girls Generation were making attempts to do just that, and failed. It reminds me of how there are so many talent shows looking for 'The next pop idol', and then fail to produce a winner that has more than one hit single. There are exceptions, but I guess it goes to show that you can't force fame.
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I wouldn't say K-Pop sounds exactly like American music. No matter how you look at it, that's not true. There is a distinctive Korean feel in many of the songs, as well as evident influences from J-Pop in many cases.
But J-Pop's definitely unqiue, especially in comparison. J-Rock, too. I've said it before - I have no hope in Japanese music, even mainstream Japanese music, getting any real attention the rest. Not because it's bad, I love Japanese music, above all else (note that my avatar is actually the lead singer of a popular Japanese boyband), but because it's too different to mainstream Western music. It doesn't fit in. While you see people over here giving K-Pop a quick listen and saying it's not that bad, I've only ever heard J-Pop being passed off as 'chingchong music' and, in one case, when someone asked to listen to my MP3 Player when I had been listening to Berryz Koubou's Berryz Fields, 'rave for aliens'.
My favourite thing, though, is when J-Pop is accused of ripping K-Pop off. Sure, the Hallyu Wave means that certain new musical trends have shown themselves in Japanese music, but, people mainly make this claim when songs feature autotune. I'm sorry, I forgot that Perfume have been using that since before most of the current big K-Pop groups even debuted. Or that autotune was first used, mainly, by Michael Jackson, who is neither Korean nor Japanese (though it goes without saying). On top of that, the autotune trend in K-Pop only started around 2009, mainly after BIGBANG started implementing it, I believe. I swear the first major use of it from BIGBANG was in their track, Gara Gara GO! - which was released in Japan for a Japanese audience. However, one of GACKT's most autotuned tracks. GHOST, was released in early 2009, before BIGBANG even debuted in Japan, for the most part. Yamashita Tomohisa released MOLA in 2008 or 2009, either one. Before the K-Pop trend anyway. Koda Kumi uses auotune a lot, too. And there's far more examples, I'm sure, but I'm sick of people making such a stupidly baseless chain. K-Pop didn't make electric pop. Especially seeing as Japan have been working in that genre for longer than Korea.
[[unrelated rant, maybe?]]
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