The Pyramids

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At face value, they look like something really ancient, because its all made of stone, and we immediately associate stone with being primitive. When you look at it on a deeper level though, the fact it took 2.3 million stones to build the so-called Khufu pyramid, the fact there was only a margin of error of 53 millimeters for such a massive structure, that the base is aligned to true magnetic north before there was supposedly any method to measure magnetic north, and that the granite in the "sarcophagus" has drill marks on it that could have only been plausibly done with diamond bit drills, makes me think it wasn't built with the primitive methods were told it was built from.

Be they physical extra-terrestrials or something more metaphysical, I think that more advanced intelligences may have intervened with our evolution and that they built the pyramids as a kind of standard for us to follow. They left a giant puzzle behind for us to solve, and when were spiritually and mentally evolved enough to solve it, we'll be able to figure out how to build the same type of structure and travel through hyper-space as well. That's an idea I'm willing to entertain though. I don't really buy into it whole sale, because its just speculation, but so is the idea that it was built with primitive tools, before the wheel and before Archimedes even invented pulleys.

I also think these higher intelligences may manifest to us differently at various stages to push our development in a certain direction. Where the tree spirits of hunter gatherers, the Anunnaki of ancient Mesopotamia, the Elohim of the the Israelites, the fairies of the middle ages may have served a specific purpose and specific cultural context, their current manifestation as nuts and bolts flying saucers may be about influencing us to explore space and to develop higher levels of technology. I think the different manifestations of these entities are cues in a kind of metta-computer program that's meant to unfold human development in a certain direction. It might be what ensures that our consciousness experiences a full range of historical experience.

Personally, I think human beings have always been capable of doing amazing things, so I'm not going to deprive the Egyptians of the credit for building the pyramids. One archaeologist, speaking on the matter, had said if we found a cell phone from that era, that would be proof of aliens, but the building of the pyramids can be explained by human brain and muscle power.
Incidentally, while the outside of the pyramids are made of uniform blocks, it's been found that the inner stones are very often just boulders used as filler.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer

As I understand it, the magnetic north moves around.

Also, you can just draw a line showing the sun's movement (which would be an East-West line), then draw a line perdendicular to that (North-South). It's not massively difficult. I'm sure there are problems of application to be solved, but then, they seemed good enough astronomers at Abu Simbel.

even at that time lodestone was probably known as well, if anyone made the conection is uncertain.

but yes magnetic north moves by several meters a year, over a couple thousand one can be sure it wont align anyway today.

Only humans were involved.



There were no extra-terrestrials.

"Stargate" is a myth.

Fnord, did your eyes give a little golden flash of light when you said that?

Sholvah! This insolence shall not remain unpunished!

i thought that slave labour was very limited at the building site, mainly due to the farmers working there as a way of paying their taxes in the flooded season.

Bunch of cowboys!

The alignment of the great pyramids was done by star sighting. The Egyptians had no magnetic compass.

ruveyn

been there....the limestone outer stones are of really good quality, that is why they have lasted so long. been to the quarry where they were mined. the inner burial chamber is granite, very beautifully finished. well fitted. been to the quarry, far south of cairo, where the granite was mined. human work, no doubt about that.....alas, no drill marks.

the other carvings all around the pyramids are of local sandstone. why they are crumbling. very sad.

humans lie. look at machu picchu......many people claim the stones could not have come from the mountain. not true, the side of the mountain has been mined. all you have to do is look. you can even crawl around the half mined rock. very cool, for sure.

FFS this is stupid, maybe the average conspiracy theorist has a hard time conceptualizing basic geometry applied to architecture and piling up stones on top of each other, but the ancient Egyptians did not. The ancients are not nearly as dumb as ancient aliens supporters; this is the source of their cognitive dissonance

The Great Pyramid was built as a tomb for fourth dynasty Egyptian Pharaoh Khufu (Cheops in Greek) over a 10 to 20-year period concluding around 2560 BC. Around 800 tons of stone were moved each day.

If you divide the perimeter of the Pyramid by its height, you get a close approximation to 2π. The ratio of the perimeter to height of 1760/280 cubits equates to 6.285714, with an accuracy of 0.04025% in relation to the actual value of 2π.

Compare this to the fact that if you divide the circumference of a circle by its radius, you get 2π (6.283185...).

Consider also that 1st Kings (on the Bible) was written around 560 BC (2000 years after the completion of the Great Pyramid), and that it's text implies that the value of π is exactly 3, which is inaccurate by 4.719755%.

The Pharoahs were more mathematically advanced than the Jews of 2000 years later.

Oh, I said magnetic north? I meant its aligned to true north and south within a margin of three-sixtieths of a degree, which doesn't change over time. They would have had to have a rather extensive knowledge of the planet to build the structures within that low of a tolerance. This is supposedly before the invention of the chronometer used to find longitude, trans-continental sea exploration, and the modern computers used to map the 25,000 year cycles of stars. Not to mention, actually building the Giza pyramid structures within this precise of an alignment is another engineering feet, let alone finding true north and building all the pyramids to be a mirror image of Orion. This wasn't just some crude approximation of the northern direction by watching the passing of the sun, anymore than the cutting of the stone for the pyramids was anything but a very mathematically and technologically precise process.

The problem I see with the claim it was built for Khufu and the cartouche used to tie him to it is there's dispute whether its referring to the pharoh or not because of the ambiguity of the symbols used. Its actually more likely that it says Rahta, not Khufu. Its also painted and the only writing in the pyramid. I seriously doubt that they would have built a mathematically precise super structure to house one person's corpse and mis-spell his name and not even chisel it in.

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~cic04500/khuhu.jpg

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~cic04500/zu17.jpg

http://www2.odn.ne.jp/~cic04500/zu18.jpg

(site wouldn't let me post these images)

Now tell me which one it looks more like? I think its the third link that more closely resembles the picture of the "Khufu/Rahtah?" pyramid cartouche. If they were going to put his name on there, they could have at least got someone to use better hand writing. Apparently they used one of the dumber slaves and not the guy who figured out how to align all the pyramids with Orion and true north. They could have at least used a chisel.

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If Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins could do this:



Then a hell of a lot more people could probably do this: