The funny thing I noticed abt Dating and Car.

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What I have experienced was the following:

The ladies I dated who HAD cars are the ones who didn't like the fact that I don't own mine - they were the most who kinda complained about it.

The ladies I dated who DIDN'T have cars, didn't even give a s**t about this.


Which is funny, because logically it should be the other way around!! Since it would be enough for one of the partners in any couple to have a car in order...you know, it makes everything easier. It's the car-less ladies who were supposed to complain and nag because we had to rely on the sh***y public transports, but they never did nor they even gave the slightest sign of being bothered about this.

ones with cars felt you were inferior than them because they had one and you didnt. Thus you lost appeal at being inferior.

On a similar WP post, an NT wife said she had to leave her ASD husband because he was too co-dependent on her and leaned on her for everything. She complained he never met her halfway so she bounced. I can see how tiring it'd be for her to drive her husband everywhere, not to mention probably being the one laden down with additional chores like cooking, grocery shopping, cleaning, laundry, bill paying and maybe even bringing home the bacon. Stressful indeed.

Do most people in Beirut (isn't that a vibrant metropolis? You'd think they'd have good public transport) drive? Or do you live in some suburban area of Beirut where public transportation is not so good?

I live in a suburban part of the Greater Toronto Area. So it is a turn-off to most girls here if you don't drive. I have a car out of necessity basically. It would take me 70 minutes to get to work via the bus system (I work in a different municipality from where I live). By car, it takes me a third of the time basically. But women who live in parts of Toronto with good public transportation (especially near a subway. I believe they are called metros in your part of the world?) probably don't care either way. I think picking up a lady in a car or offering her a ride home will impress a girl in even downtown Toronto. But it's more of a status symbol. Not something that they see as a necessity. And honestly, automobile travel in Old Toronto, especially downtown Toronto, is so tedious that automobile travel will either be slower or not net you much in terms of time savings. Especially if you are wasting time circling around looking for free parking like most motorists in Toronto. Or if you pay to save time and walking distance, you have to go through the trouble of running over to the meter, paying for parking and then having to put the receipt on your dashboard. All that stuff adds time to your commute. Being a motorist in Old Toronto is such a tedious affair. I would rather chat leisurely with my date on a subway or streetcar than stress myself out braving rush hour downtown Toronto traffic. Even in the suburbs, rush hour traffic can be stressful.

There is too much automobile dependence in our society. It's clogging our roads and causing gridlock. Increasing dependence on foreign oil. And people are becoming fat and sometimes even obese driving around in their cars instead of walking, taking public transit (requires more walking) or riding bicycles. People being isolated in their cars is also breaking down social harmony. And all these cars make our streets a lot less safe, especially for children.

No one wants to invest in public transit for the greater good. Everyone wants to live further and further away from the core cities because they don't want to live near "undesirable" minorities in the city ("white flight". Here in Toronto, the minorities have been moving into suburbs like Mississauga, Brampton, Richmond Hill, Markham, etc. So white people are moving further and further away. And their commutes to work are getting longer and longer until they find another job closer to their new homes). Meanwhile, motorists are heavily subsidized and they have no idea. For eg. all that "free" parking you see out there isn't actually free. Somebody has to pay for it whether directly or indirectly.

I like the convenience of owning a car. But I wish we as a society were a lot less dependent on automobiles.

Reminds me of Young MC:

Girls are fakin' goodness sakin' / They want the man who brings home the bacon / Got no money and you got no car / Then you got no women and there you are

Rappers say stuff like "girls like cash", "first I get the money, then I get the b*****s". And yet girls usually look down on guys like me who have visited prostitutes? Hey, what's the difference? I just do things Pay As You Go style instead of going on a month to month contract or god forbid, a long-term contract. The downside of this is that I pay more per-use just like you would with any Pay As You Go plan (I would hope so anyway. If your girlfriend costs more than the $200-250/hr escorts I've seen, I don't envy you. Though this one regular has been giving me the occasional $140/h discount. lol) But the upside is flexibility, being able to buy only what I use and being able to switch carriers anytime I want (I think it's fair to say I have a low sex drive. There are times where I'll go 6 weeks and not miss sex. And I can go a lot longer without. I think it's largely overrated actually. I'm currently 3 1/2 weeks without as I speak. I could go the rest of my life without it but curiosity gets the best of me. I always have hope that some girl will rock my world and prove to me that sex is not overrated. Sex can be fun and exciting. But I feel ripped off when society and porn have built it up to be so ever amazing. And the reality is always a let down compared to fantasy. A vagina can't come close to replicating the pleasure I feel from my right hand.)

In some parts of Europe if you don't have a car shortly after driving age you simply won't get many dates, or if you do get girls attracted to you don't expect anything long term to come from it. All a bit sad really. It's not so bad here in the UK if you live in the cities a lot more people are open minded about it due to our very good transport links. I know people here complain about public transport but if anything they take it for granted it's leagues better than even some of the more developed countries like the states.

There is a definite gender bias yea. I had a thing with a girl with a car while I didn't have one at the time and she'd drive me around on dates (though I would pay for dates completely because she claimed that she was tight on money until she got her next disability cheque). But she was obese and very unattractive. And I found out that the next guy she dates would borrow money from her (a woman on disability! Meanwhile he worked! Shameless!) and not pay her back. There you go. Desperate women are not only willing to give you rides but be taken for a ride financially too.

Back in my brother's University days, there was a girl who really fancied him. He didn't have a car. But she had her own. He would be the one doing the driving on outings though.

It is what it is. I don't know what to tell you. Women are socialized to care about a man's social status. Women tend to be overly concerned about what their friends and family think about them. Including their choice of boyfriend. "Oh he's a loser girl, dump his ass, you can do better!"

The dating economy is basically what the financial economy would be like without government restrictions. Unfettered capitalism. It's not about your value as a human being. It's about what you can bring to the table for your woman to make her feel good about herself (whether it be status that can impress her friends/family, money to buy her things to impress her friends/family or helping her live out her little Twilight romance etc.)

I've always found it amusing how society has pretty much collectively decided that there should be some sort of economic and social justice in the world in terms of the redistribution of wealth, the welfare state and anti-discrimination laws in the workplace. But dating is one of those realms where social inequality is rampant. A liberal girl may think "poor low socio-economic status person, have some welfare" but she would never dare date a "loser". *gasp* God forbid. You don't see them walk up to a homeless person and kiss/hug them or say "Hey can I interest you in a blowjob?" Maybe, just maybe, a homeless person would appreciate that more than a quarter once in awhile. Society may keep those of low standing alive. But they are left in the margins of society pretty much universally. Humans are social animals and social needs are pretty important in the Maslow hierarchy of needs. Most people, unless they are schizoid or something, resent being rejected by their peers. And yet social inequality and social stratification is universally accepted as the status quo by both the left and the right even though they may agree (even the right to a certain extent) that alleviating economic inequality is a worthwhile cause.