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03 Jan 2013, 9:21 am

Dox47 wrote:
Say it were legal to simply go out an buy a nuke. Where would you get one? What would it cost? Would you have to build all the equipment necessary for extracting and purifying the necessary elements, shaping them very precisely, assembling them in the correct fashion?

If nukes are legal, there is no reason why one cannot simply buy a fully operational warhead from a shop. While the cost is expensive for an average family (say tens million US$), there are plenty of people spending that amount of money on boats, private jets, etc.

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Chemical and biological weapons are certainly readily available for a lot less money and trouble,

Evidence please.

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Building a machinegun, or a grenade, or a flamethrower is garage science, not terribly difficult, but people don't generally do it. Why? Because none of those things is very useful day to day.

A homemade machine gun or grenade is not as reliable as a shop bought one. These weapons are not widely sold because they are illegal. Whether these things or your old guns are useful or not is at best your opinion.



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03 Jan 2013, 9:45 am

01001011 wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Say it were legal to simply go out an buy a nuke. Where would you get one? What would it cost? Would you have to build all the equipment necessary for extracting and purifying the necessary elements, shaping them very precisely, assembling them in the correct fashion?

If nukes are legal, there is no reason why one cannot simply buy a fully operational warhead from a shop. While the cost is expensive for an average family (say tens million US$), there are plenty of people spending that amount of money on boats, private jets, etc.

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Chemical and biological weapons are certainly readily available for a lot less money and trouble,

Evidence please.

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Building a machinegun, or a grenade, or a flamethrower is garage science, not terribly difficult, but people don't generally do it. Why? Because none of those things is very useful day to day.

A homemade machine gun or grenade is not as reliable as a shop bought one. These weapons are not widely sold because they are illegal. Whether these things or your old guns are useful or not is at best your opinion.
as far as homemade guns there quality would depend more on how experienced the builder is in gun smithing but building and possesing a machine gun without a proper license would put to test other weapons building skills, like for instance how to make a knife out of a tooth brush in order to stay safe in the shower room.

an experienced gun smith can build higher quality firearms often better then in a factory


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03 Jan 2013, 12:14 pm

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The second amendment says that the States can have there own well ordered armed militias. Since the reserves are in fact ancillaries of our standing army, the second amendment is for all intents and purposes a dead letter.

It is only the gun nuts who look to the second amendment for a right for individual citizens to keep and bear arms just because they are citizens. The right place to look is the 9 th amendment which says your natural right to self defense shall not be disparaged just because it is not explicitly written into the Constitution.

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Colour me impressed. That is one of the most cogent pieces of legal thinking I have seen in this forum for quite some time.

I have reservations about what a "natural right to self defense" looks like, but that's just detail work.


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