Gov. Bobby Jindal has a good point....

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25 Jan 2013, 10:45 am

Here is something that Bobby Jindal said that makes good sense (snipped quoted from N.Y.Times)

"Jindal called on the Republican Party to "stop being the stupid party" on Thursday as GOP leaders promised fundamental changes to help stave off future losses.

In the keynote address at the Republican National Committee's winter meeting, Jindal said the GOP doesn't need to change its values but "might need to change just about everything else we are doing."

"We've got to stop being the stupid party. It's time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults," he said. "We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I'm here to say we've had enough of that." "

What do you think?

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25 Jan 2013, 10:55 am

Obama's presidency has inflamed the absolute worst elements of American Society and drawn them into the political sphere. The GOP should not have welcomed these people into their party.

The Republicans have certainly suffered from pandering/attracting the more radical elements of the right.

The GOP needs an enema.


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25 Jan 2013, 11:32 am

I've made cases before on why I think Jindal should be seriously looked at as a nominee for '16. The guy ticks all the boxes for the GOP - Pro Life, Anti-Same Sex Marriage, Tax Cuts, Patriot Act and Pro Creationist teaching, whilst looking and sounding Democrat (Mature, reasonable and intellectual)

His comments are obviously spot on, but probably won't go down well with most GOP supporters...which makes sense really.



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25 Jan 2013, 11:37 am

I think both parties are detached from their voter bases.


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25 Jan 2013, 1:08 pm

Pro-Creationist is a box that the GOP wants to tick? Seriously?

The GOP wants to be the party of dumb-guys-who-don't-get-science? This is precisely the kind of thing that has gotten the Republicans into the mess that they are in now.

From my perspective, the GOP should run screaming from the social conservatives.


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25 Jan 2013, 1:25 pm

visagrunt wrote:
From my perspective, the GOP should run screaming from the social conservatives.


But that's always been 'them' I doubt enough Republicans want to shift the political position just because of two bad campaigns. No, they'll stick to their guns (Literally, unfortunately) and simply keep replacing the figurehead till one that looks and talks responsibly, maturely (Essentially like a democrat) enough to fool most Americans into getting them back in power, then the old guard can come in and ruin everything. Again.

That's all the GOP wants. Progress? Hell no. Back in the (supposedly) good ol' days? Hell yeah...



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25 Jan 2013, 1:35 pm

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Obama's presidency has inflamed the absolute worst elements of American Society and drawn them into the political sphere. The GOP should not have welcomed these people into their party.

The Republicans have certainly suffered from pandering/attracting the more radical elements of the right.

The GOP needs an enema.


That is basically what Jindal was getting at.



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25 Jan 2013, 1:37 pm

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Pro-Creationist is a box that the GOP wants to tick? Seriously?

s.


60 percent of U.S. adults believe the Earth is less than 10,000 years old. Shocking and disconcerting but true.

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25 Jan 2013, 1:45 pm

ruveyn wrote:
GoonSquad wrote:
Obama's presidency has inflamed the absolute worst elements of American Society and drawn them into the political sphere. The GOP should not have welcomed these people into their party.

The Republicans have certainly suffered from pandering/attracting the more radical elements of the right.

The GOP needs an enema.


That is basically what Jindal was getting at.


They need to kick the tea part folks out. That way they cannot keep screwing up the GOP primaries and the Republicans can finally field some viable candidates in the general elections again.

It might be hard for an election cycle or two, but the tea party would wither and die soon enough.

Sure they'd split the far right crazy vote, but they'd pick up some women and Hispanics too.


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25 Jan 2013, 4:45 pm

visagrunt wrote:
From my perspective, the GOP should run screaming from the social conservatives.


Should the Democratic party run from the social liberals as well?
Seems to make sense since radical is still radical.

Says the boy who lied about the German pirates.


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25 Jan 2013, 5:33 pm

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Should the Democratic party run from the social liberals as well?
Seems to make sense since radical is still radical.

Says the boy who lied about the German pirates.


Abso-freakin'-lutely.

Even though this is nominally a thread about the GOP, it was remiss of me not to say so.

The Democrats and the GOP should be involved in an electoral war for the hearts and minds of the political center. Instead, they are poised in opposite corners, firing at each other.


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25 Jan 2013, 5:34 pm

Raptor wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
From my perspective, the GOP should run screaming from the social conservatives.


Should the Democratic party run from the social liberals as well?
Seems to make sense since radical is still radical.

Says the boy who lied about the German pirates.

Well, Dr. Totenkopf, the difference is that the social conservatives are a dying breed.

The declining religiosity and the changing ethnic composition of the US both contribute to the inevitable demise of US "conservatism".



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25 Jan 2013, 5:36 pm

visagrunt wrote:
Instead, they are poised in opposite corners, firing at each other.


If only that were literally true.


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25 Jan 2013, 6:24 pm

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If only that were literally true.


You honestly want that? Millions of people lying dead?

The social conservatives will still exist in America, as long as there is still the constitution they will still want to live in 1789 by those amendments still written in age with Nelson, Hume & Cook et cetera, that's why the GOP stands for the Grand Old Party...

Hopefully the democrats will keep them in the wilderness of opposition for as long as possible.



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25 Jan 2013, 6:52 pm

GGPViper wrote:
Raptor wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
From my perspective, the GOP should run screaming from the social conservatives.


Should the Democratic party run from the social liberals as well?
Seems to make sense since radical is still radical.

Says the boy who lied about the German pirates.

Well, Dr. Totenkopf, the difference is that the social conservatives are a dying breed.

The declining religiosity and the changing ethnic composition of the US both contribute to the inevitable demise of US "conservatism".


Bible thumpers and *racists are only a small part of the conservative world.
The left has its radicals, too.
Doktor Totenkopf..............lol.........I like that. :D

* Real racists as opposed to those that support border protection and welfare reform and are therefor labeled racist by the left.


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25 Jan 2013, 7:52 pm

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Doktor Totenkopf..............lol.........I like that. :D

I am always ready to entertain.

Would you like a pile of starved-to-death Jewish bodies in a ditch as well? They look great on a postcard.

Or simply an Einsatzgruppen team lining up Polish Jews so several could be killed with a single shot?