Why is it impossible for an ugly man to be desired?

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26 Mar 2013, 7:36 am

Women always say that men are the shallower sex and judge women based on appearance, while women judge men based on other things. This is manifestly false. Everyone judges potential romantic partners on their appearance. This is a simple fact. The difference, however, is that there are a diverse selection of physically acceptable women, and that doesn't happen for men. Some men like chubby women, some men like skinny, some like tall, some like short, some like blondes, some like brunette, some like big butts, some like ehtnic, some don't, etc. But with women, this does not exist. There is only one perfect man. So if a girl is ugly, that's okay. She is beautiful by some guys' standards. A girl that I think is beautiful, you might think is ugly, and vice versa. So if you're an ugly woman, all you need to do is wait for a guy who is turned on by women who look like you. But men don't have that option. Men need to be the perfect Channing Tatum, 6'2, chiseled abs, cute face, good jaw, masculine, and if they don't have that, they will die alone and unloved. You never hear women lust over a short, emasculate, weedy, spectacled Asian male. There is only one type of guy women lust for: it is the men that are tall, handsome and masculine.

Why do I wake up in the morning? A girl who struggles with her weight can still find love, because there are TONS of men who love chubby girls. She can lose weight and have even more guys interested. But are there any women who love chubby guys? Nope. Are there women that lust for short, skinny guys? Nope. I iused to be very skinny and short and girls were repulsed by me. So repulsed I used to get rejected and face hostile comments by female strangers. Now a short skinny girl is highly desired. Double standard right there.

I'm not skinny anymore or obese, that was just my example. My point is, ugly men will always be second rate. So what's the point of getting up in the morning if you're as ugly as me?



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26 Mar 2013, 8:18 am

Would you desire an ugly girl?



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26 Mar 2013, 8:18 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurry_Up,_or_I%27ll_Be_30

Wasn't Danny DeVito was always short and chubby?

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26 Mar 2013, 8:23 am

Because ugly men are seen as creeps if they so much as even say hi to a lady.

This has been my experience for years. As someone with Marfan syndrome and severe orthognathism, I fell from the top of the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down. I can't even smile at people without being labeled a hideous freak.

And yeah, DeVito is short and chubby, but it helps that he has tons of money. And it's not like he's quite ugly either.


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26 Mar 2013, 8:40 am

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Men need to be the perfect Channing Tatum, 6'2, chiseled abs, cute face, good jaw, masculine, and if they don't have that, they will die alone and unloved.


This is nonsense; there are plenty of men who are not like that who are happily married.


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26 Mar 2013, 8:44 am

Danny Devito apparently was blessed with good social skills to make up for his ugliness. AS+ugly=screwed. Also, Asian men have the lowest rate of marriage in USA.

Anyway, some girls do like chubby guys. If you're bigger, they feel protected I think. However, being Asian you're probably small framed, so small frame+chubby isn't good. Like some white and black folks are more "naturally" bigger, but there's fewer Asian born mesomorphs and endomorphs.

But I remember my first time ice skating as an adult, this girl and this guy were skating. The guy was like 300lbs (but like six feet), and not good looking at all. Basically prototype of foreveralone 30 year old nerd. The girl looked like a super model or something, just absolutely amazing. She had a great time learning to skate with this guy and I heard her suggest coffee after. I mean I don't know the end totally, but the girl seemed super into him and he did well for himself. This is like 1 in a million type of stuff, though.

I dunno, get into lifting or bodybuilding and get muscles and suddenly girls will smile at you a lot more. Guaranteed.



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26 Mar 2013, 8:49 am

You could also be known as a gardening expert--if you are helping out in a public garden and look like you know what you are doing women will ask you for advice.



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26 Mar 2013, 8:51 am

I think that women are attracted to whoever makes them feel good about themselves.

In many cases, it is with very handsome men. In others, it is wealthy men. Some women feel best about themselves with much older men. Some with highly intelligent men. Many with successful men. Some with men much like themselves. Some with men very unlike themselves. Some with funny men. Some with serious men. It all depends on what makes them feel good about themselves -- what boosts their self image.

The thing to remember is that if you don't make a woman feel good about herself, she is going to look elsewhere.



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26 Mar 2013, 8:58 am

that is not true at all



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26 Mar 2013, 9:00 am

Cafeaulait wrote:
that is not true at all


Which of us do you mean?



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26 Mar 2013, 9:05 am

1000Knives wrote:
Danny Devito apparently was blessed with good social skills to make up for his ugliness.


And money. You can't forget that.


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26 Mar 2013, 9:12 am

eric76 wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
that is not true at all


Which of us do you mean?


TS topic title



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26 Mar 2013, 9:22 am

For the same reason it is difficult for an unattractive woman to be be desired: because they're unattractive.



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26 Mar 2013, 9:25 am

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For the same reason it is difficult for an unattractive woman to be be desired: because they're unattractive.


I dunno about this. Like the TS, I've seen so-called "ugly" (really I just think of them as not being my type) women with men, but not many couples with an "ugly" man and a woman. And if I have, it's usually because the "ugly" man has something like money or lots of power going for him.


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26 Mar 2013, 9:33 am

Most of the population is ugly and in a relationship.

It's not to do with looks for why people aren't with someone (unless an ugly person needs to be with the best looking person around, but that doesn't seem to be common).



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26 Mar 2013, 9:40 am

DialAForAwesome wrote:
Jono wrote:
For the same reason it is difficult for an unattractive woman to be be desired: because they're unattractive.


I dunno about this. Like the TS, I've seen so-called "ugly" (really I just think of them as not being my type) women with men, but not many couples with an "ugly" man and a woman. And if I have, it's usually because the "ugly" man has something like money or lots of power going for him.


I dunno, despite me being the anti-feminist I usually am, I do actually see more ugly dudes (then again, not gay so I don't know how to classify dudes too well) with really hot wives/girlfriends. In this case, I'd argue women are more attracted to things not just physical, but not always in good ways. One thing is obviously money. The other is just like, some dudes are so "confident" but they're complete controlling jackasses. And they find a girl who's into that and happens to be hot.

Anyway, getting better looking is relatively easy and improves you socially probably more than any sort of classes or therapies would. Lose extra weight if you have it, good hygeine, eat well, get plenty of sleep, wear good clothes (I buy name brand stuff at thrift stores) and you'll put yourself in a better position and people will generally hate you less.