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01 Apr 2013, 1:03 pm

This last month has been horrible. I cant focus on anything. Whatever ADHD problems i had have been multiplied in both magnitude and frequency. I cant read anything for more than 30 minutes straight. I always have this depressing, heavyesque feeling above my head. I cant bring myself to do anything productive, and even if i can, i am doing it in snail speed. And even if i CAN bring myself to do something, i have a BURNING need to phase out of it every 15 minutes (lying on my bed to relax, walking around the house aimlessly not being able to focus on anything etc..)

I cant even exercise properly. Normally i do 30 minute runs, but lately after the 20 min mark, i get a dizzy, drunklike feeling that lasts for 2 hours and its just horrible and i have to stop.

I dont eat junk food, i sleep well, and i dont ever feel stressed (probably cuz of aspergers). Ive tried meditation, ive tried power napping, ive tried doing nothing for a whole week to clear my systems - and nothing worked...

I love work. Work is my life. I have no discipline or willpower problems. I distaste procrastination, but in my current situation i cannot do anyhting else but it. I cant read, i cant work, i cant work out - all i can do is just sit in front of my computer and watch movies. And the worst thing is, that i am 100% sure that if i go to a doctor he will say nothing is wrong with me.


Did anyone ever have this issue before?



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01 Apr 2013, 1:08 pm

Sounds like severe depression, to me. You want to schedule an appointment with a psychiatrist and/or psychologist very soon to get help with it. I know from personal experience that depression is pretty much the definition of "life sucks" and "I can't seem to get anything done".

Best of luck, and I hope things get better for you.


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01 Apr 2013, 1:19 pm

I think I have been experiencing something similar to what you described for a very long time. So much so, I pretty much got used to it, which is very bad. Sorry I haven't resolved my own problem and I cannot offer any solution to your problem. I just wanted to offer my sympathy to you.



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01 Apr 2013, 1:29 pm

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I dont eat junk food

Did anyone ever have this issue before?


But what do you eat & has your diet changed in the last few months?

Yes, and other issues, and I found that a large part of it could be controlled via diet.

60% of ADHD/AS people are gluten & casein intolerant. 75% are salicylate sensitive. I've removed as much as possible of all of them with great results in reducing symptoms and being able to get on in life a lot better.


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01 Apr 2013, 1:30 pm

It sounds like severe depression, you need to find a psychiatrist or a pscyhologist or therapist, at least a professional that you can talk to.

Tell them everything you mentioned, the shrink would have to be nuts to find nothing wrong.
It's no fun having depression and its no fun.

Do you drive? Can you get out of the house and do something? Sometimes its even hard to do that, however if you can just get out of the house for awhile, it might help.

If you aren't excercising as much as you usually do and not sleeping or eating well, it could explain the dizzy drunklike feeling you get when you do your running. You'll have to build stamina back up possibly.

It does sound like depression has a hold on you. It's best to try and do things that will snap yourself out of it if you can, seriously just get out a bit, go somewhere.
I know its easier said than done..



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01 Apr 2013, 8:23 pm

But im not feeling depressed. I just cant focus. If anything, if i would feel bad its because my lack of usefulness > feeling bad, and not feeling bad > lackof usefullness.

How do i find out whether i have allergies or not?



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01 Apr 2013, 8:27 pm

Standarduser wrote:
But im not feeling depressed. I just cant focus. If anything, if i would feel bad its because my lack of usefulness > feeling bad, and not feeling bad > lackof usefullness.

How do i find out whether i have allergies or not?


Allergy tests (skin prick tests), some blood tests may indicate some things, elimination diet & overloading on certain foods to see what happens. Also, cross referencing symptoms to what you've eaten before they happen - but this typically can't be observed very easily in real time, only in hindsight after you know you're allergic/intolerant/sensitive to something, then you can think back and connect the dots between times you've eaten or drank a lot of those foods and what happened to you then.


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01 Apr 2013, 8:33 pm

Ok you need to see a gp to check before just assuming that it is depression. There are a number of physical issues that can cause symptoms similar to depression such as a thyroid issue for example (which is only an example off the top of my head just to highlight that physical illnesses can cause depression like symptoms).

It could be depression but if you love your job, are not highly stressed out and so on it could just as easily have a physical cause especially if it started out of the blue, you have no history of depression and there is nothing going on in your life that would have suddenly triggered it (such as bereavement).

Also those symptoms at the end of your run sound physical. If you were previously able to run for 30 minutes and are now getting dizzy after 20 that does not sound like a mental health issue to me.

Please see your gp and please do not assume it is mental health related until you have had all physical causes checked out.



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01 Apr 2013, 8:37 pm

Standarduser wrote:
But im not feeling depressed. I just cant focus. If anything, if i would feel bad its because my lack of usefulness > feeling bad, and not feeling bad > lackof usefullness.

How do i find out whether i have allergies or not?


See your gp for blood tests and an allergy test if you suspect allergies.

As your symptoms are coming on at the end of your run I would definitely see your gp, that does not sound right (especially as you are used to exercising etc) and it does not sound like a mental health issue or an allergy.

See your dr.

Allergies are an igE reaction and will come on very quickly after consuming or being exposed to something you are allergic to. These can be detected with a blood test (systemic allergy) or skin prick test. Some allergies, such as localised allergies, may not show on a blood test (had this problem when I had a sinus infection but a skin prick test showed an allergy to duck feathers).

Autoimmune problems caused by gluten (ie celiac disease) is an igA or and igG reaction and tend to come on more slowly...you could ask for a blood test for celiac disease if you do suspect it.

There is a difference between an allergy and an autoimmune disorder.

Food intolerance and sensitivities will not usually show an immune reaction and will not usually register on either a blood test or an allergy test. Your best for finding out if it is one of those is to do an elimination diet supervised by a dietician.

Allergies are also not the same as a sensitivity or intolerance.

But please see a gp to have other problems ruled out first. It may not even be related to your diet. You need blood tests and a physical exam by a qualified medical practitioner.

If it all comes back normal you can consider food sensitivities and/or mental health related issues afterwards.

The internet is not, I repeat, NOT the best place to ask such questions as you can get a lot of misleading advice from people who are not qualified to diagnose you and who do NOT know your precise medical history. Please go to your dr.



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01 Apr 2013, 8:50 pm

I sincerely hope you're practicing what you're preaching and considering food sensitivities and doing an elimination diet or overloading to test for them. You know exactly what I'm talking about, and IMO, owe it to yourself to find out definitively. Take it from me (because I'm generously giving it freely) it's about the best thing I've ever figured out and done for myself. Ever. The differences are night & day for the better. Feel free to PM me about it any time.


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01 Apr 2013, 8:50 pm

You could have something psychically wrong with you, like low blood sugar or anemia or some other deficiency. Even seasonal allergies can wipe a person out. See your doctor, tell him your symptoms and he'll run some lab work.



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01 Apr 2013, 8:53 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
Standarduser wrote:
I dont eat junk food

Did anyone ever have this issue before?


But what do you eat & has your diet changed in the last few months?

Yes, and other issues, and I found that a large part of it could be controlled via diet.

60% of ADHD/AS people are gluten & casein intolerant. 75% are salicylate sensitive. I've removed as much as possible of all of them with great results in reducing symptoms and being able to get on in life a lot better.


I appreciate you are trying to help but not everything is dietary in origin. He needs to see his GP for a physical check up.



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01 Apr 2013, 8:55 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
I sincerely hope you're practicing what you're preaching and considering food sensitivities and doing an elimination diet or overloading to test for them. You know exactly what I'm talking about, and IMO, owe it to yourself to find out definitively. Take it from me (because I'm generously giving it freely) it's about the best thing I've ever figured out and done for myself. Ever. The differences are night & day for the better. Feel free to PM me about it any time.


We have covered this before...I have no such physical symptoms ie I don't suffer from dizziness etc, all those types of symptoms disappeared when I stopped antidepressants and went on the paleo diet.

I just get a little frustrated sometimes when I feel a little lonely and people keep trying to ram me back on medication for depression.

I also get sh***y when people attack me but as you didn't really attack me as such I won't get sh***y with you.

And yes I appreciate you love your diet (I can see you love your diet and understand your passion there) but I love my paleo diet too so it's a stalemate.

Let us not drag this out here as it is not my thread and I don't think the OP will appreciate the Hijack.



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01 Apr 2013, 9:03 pm

bumble wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Standarduser wrote:
I dont eat junk food

Did anyone ever have this issue before?


But what do you eat & has your diet changed in the last few months?

Yes, and other issues, and I found that a large part of it could be controlled via diet.

60% of ADHD/AS people are gluten & casein intolerant. 75% are salicylate sensitive. I've removed as much as possible of all of them with great results in reducing symptoms and being able to get on in life a lot better.


I appreciate you are trying to help but not everything is dietary in origin. He needs to see his GP for a physical check up.


I appreciate you acknowledging that I am trying to help, thank you, bumble. :)

I realize & accept that not everything is dietary in origin. However, you are what you eat... and the numbers never lie; statistically: 60% of us are gluten & casein intolerant. I know that I am. and 75% of us are salicylate sensitive. I know that I am.

An elimination diet to cleanse your body takes 6 days of an ultra bland diet consisting of pretty much chicken & brown rice. Then you overload on a food group for 2 days to see what happens. I've done this for grains & dairy and reacted to both - likely due to the gluten & casein. It takes up to 6 months to completely detox gluten.

I accidentally overdosed on salicylate acids prior to even knowing they existed, never mind what they were. They affected me in extreme ways. I've since detoxed them and it has made a dramatic difference. I've learned a lot more about this than the average bear, too. The methods of figuring out if you're salicylate sensitive are just as quick and easy as doing an 8 day diet for testing gluten - or quicker if you're willing to overdose on sals and send yourself to autistic hell to find out - but I do not recommend this because it can literally be lethal. I'd recommend eliminating & detoxing them for a while to test for improvements vs. try for making things worse. It can take up to 3 months to completely detox them, IIRC, but utilizing the method I used I was able to make significant improvements in 5 days, and then incremental ones slowly over the next few months w/ significant notable improvements week over week for the first 2 months or so.


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02 Apr 2013, 3:59 am

Ok this is starting to get creepy. I cant focus at all. I laugh and cry at the same time. Im starting to laugh spontaneously without any reason. Made an appointment with a psychiatrist, but i think i may be going mental here - no kidding. Am i losing a grip on sanity?



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02 Apr 2013, 5:58 am

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Ok this is starting to get creepy. I cant focus at all. I laugh and cry at the same time. Im starting to laugh spontaneously without any reason. Made an appointment with a psychiatrist, but i think i may be going mental here - no kidding. Am i losing a grip on sanity?


No. You're not.

I have been feeling this way for a long time. In my case, I was simply chronicaly depressed, I didn't realized up to what point I was depressed until I got into medication (I'm currently on antidepressants). I'm not saying that this is your case, I'm just stating that your symptoms doesn't necessarily involve any loss of sanity. I have been feeling in a similar way and I consider myself a sane person (I hope so, at least).

What was the problem? In my case, I react to depression in a different way. I'm a very goal focused person with an absolutely logical mind. I have emotions, o course, but it's like they're in a 'separate' folder from my logical mind. So, when I'm depressed, I am not depressed in the traditional way. People around me can even think that I'm the happiest person in the group. But I feel blocked and usefulness.

And that's the issue: I never took antidepressants (until last year) since I never felt depressed. I felt 'blocked' or 'jammed' (not exactly that, but this word is the closer one I can find to describe it). Focusing in what I was doing has been a nightmare for a long time. And trying to explain how I was feeling to NTs was another nightmare. Nobody could understand ever what I was trying to explain, and I was accused more than once of complaining without reason, from where I got that the way I feel depressed is completely different from most of people out there.

I'm not saying that this is your case. I'm just saying that what you describe is not necessarily insanity.


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