Astral Projecting?

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So last night, I had the strangest/scariest experience, not for the first time, but definitely the most intense I've ever felt it.

I was lying in bed around 4am, about to fall asleep (finally!) when I started feeling this vibration in my head, almost like an electric current, and a strange pressure in my chest like some intangible thing was pulling at my heart. I tried to ignore it, but it became stronger, to the point where I started to panic and had to force myself to sit up - which was extremely difficult as my body did not want to respond. After a period of calming myself down, I settled back into bed.

Then it started to happen again. This time, I tried to wait it out, but it became so intense that I felt like I was being pulled out of reality; my mind felt like it was separating from my body and I felt like I had no control over my physical form for a moment. I know that sounds crazy; I feel crazy even writing it. So, with some struggling, I managed to pull myself out of it, but I was terrified to try and sleep again. I kept chalking it up to anxiety and tried to using calming tactics to reduce it, but it seemed that the more I relaxed myself, the more intense it became, and it was always right before I would have fallen asleep.

Anyway, this happened another time or two, until I was finally so exhausted that I guess I passed out.

When I woke up today, I mentioned it to my roommate and he, being a kind of intellectual hippie, said that it sounded like spontaneous astral projection. I looked it up online, and sure enough, the sensations you supposedly experience prior to leaving your physical body were almost verbatim what I had felt.

I just don't know if I buy into that sort of thing - I'm very skeptical. Part of me wants to believe it to a degree, but I mostly spent my day trying to make excuses for the whole experience.

Have you heard of astral projecting?
What do you think of it?
Has anyone here tried it or know anyone who has?
Are there any neurological/psychological explanations for what I experienced that you can think of?

I'm just curious at this point, and a bit afraid to try and sleep again tonight. Like I said, it's happened to me before throughout my life, but never to that degree.

Sounds more like a heart attack to me, but I'm no doctor

See, I thought that this (and similar symptoms) were either anxiety or heart-related, so I got an EKG done about a month ago and my doctor told me my heart is fine. I get weird flutters sometimes, so I'm not sure if I fully believe her, but I'm also kind of a hypochondriac.. so...

OBE (Out of Body Experience) is always scary when it first happens for the first time. Most NT's experience it when they are on the operating table, or in cardiac arrest. Since you are experiencing this I would suggest reading "Psychic Self Defense" by Dion Fortune before going on any journey's though. But OBE's usually happen when you are a REM (Rapid Eye Movement) state just before falling asleep. I usually "hear" a boom just before falling asleep which is most annoying since I wake right back up.

Guess all those years studying Magik, Paganism, and Wicca are coming into good use...

Yes.


There is no valid empirical evidence to support the claim that anyone can project their mind, soul, psyche, spirit, astral body, etheric body, or any other entity to somewhere else on this or any other planet. The existing "evidence" is solely in the form of subjective testimonials. Everybody lies, the only variable is about what.


I've tried. I always end up falling asleep.


Adverse drug reaction, anoxia, concussion, drug-induced hallucination, false memories, hypercarbia, schizophrenia, self delusion, sleep deprivation, vitamin deficiency, or outright fraud and deception - pretending to have a popular condition or ability is childish, at the very least.


See an appropriately-trained and licensed medical-health professional, preferably a neurologist.

I know one guy who got an OOBE - he came out and saw 3 demons with horns on their heads and hairy muzzles, standing over his body He started to scream and came back and doesn't want to hear about astral travels any more

Have tried it (initially without knowledge of the term) and would characterize it as an OOBE, several times. Also, had a near death in my early 20's.

Not sure this is a fair characterization. Valid empirical evidence may be acquired by observation or experience (by at least one definition). Quantifiable or measurable, probably not, but doesn't change the efficacy for the observer that experienced/observed it. Can science prove it? not likely. Will it ever be able to? unknown. Not particularly relevant as there are a myriad of valid experiences/observations science can't prove, nor disprove. There are more than a few instances where science has eventually proven and validated that which previously was counter intuitive and unprovable, like time dilation.

Experiencing something is only proof for the person who experiences it. If someone knows he's being honest and he can rule out all known scientific explanations then he can believe it was astral projection and he might be right. He couldn't prove it to anyone else because for all other people know he's could easily be lying. Your personal experiences can be evidence for you but you can't use them to prove anything to someone else.

I am. It's fair. Deal with it.


Hear! Hear!

I personally don't think I believe in astral projection, but that is mostly due to the fact that I cannot say I have experienced it. If, by some off chance, I did 'project' and was cognitively aware of that being exactly what it was, that would be another story. Until then, I'm just sticking with my experience being induced by sleep deprivation, anxiety, etc.

The concept of projecting was interesting to mull over, though. I don't think I'll be intentionally attempting it at any point in time.

I had an OBE when I was very high on NO2 in the dentist's office, I floated out of my body and at first rested [astrally] just beneath the fluorescent light fixture above the chair, I could hear the dentist working below- then I soared to someplace that was all white and the dentist sounded far away from me. then I heard an "OW!" and I fell hard back into my body with a THUD! and the dentist thought that he had hurt me because my body shook.

^^^ Which would be your brain reacting to the gas.

Until someone can float to another room, listen in on a private conversation, then go back to their body and relay that conversation 100% accurately, I just can't accept something so impossible.
Studies have shown it's just the brain sending crazy signals due to drugs, lack of oxygen, damage, near-death, etc. Much like a REM-state dream, it can feel very real, but it's just the brain doing nutty stuff while offline.

whatever it was, it gave me hope.

Exactly, if astral projecting was real, I'd imagine anyone who could do it would be the world's richest billionaire (or the world's best spy).

but I thought both the kremlin as well as the CIA both used psychics, for spycraft.

That's exactly what They want you to believe.