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08 Jun 2013, 2:40 pm

I agree that I don't like New Country but I like old country. New country is a little too bourgeois for me. In a sense, new country is anti-country.



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09 Jun 2013, 8:13 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIHRgisdbeY[/youtube]


W O R D !

Marty is the man. I hate pop-country, but I love old western ballads, bluegrass/roots/old school country, and 70s outlaw!

"Foggy Mountain Special"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF-SBW0TDPc[/youtube]

"Uneasy Rider"
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=952h-AJ3Bcg[/youtube]


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09 Jun 2013, 9:01 am

i do not "hate" country music. i simply do not like it (the generic corn cob smoking, missing toothed alcoholic lamenting his sister leaving him type of stuff).
some country music songs are acceptable to me.
they are only acceptable to me because i found out they were in the "country/western" genre long after i had cemented my interest in those songs. if i had known in advance that they were country and western songs , i would have not have perceived them without a damping bias.


the song i am going to post is a song that trapped my mind in a serious way, and i later learned that it was in the "country & western" genre. that revelation did not diminish my admiration for the song.

incidentally, i met the singer "tina arena" on a few occasions when i was working in sound studios.
i remember her as a huge force, and i perceived that she was a genius. i normally relegate people's accomplishments to a strata of competency, but with her....she went completely over my head. i was swamped by her.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcZZZhux9J4[/youtube]



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11 Jun 2013, 1:17 pm

Once, I told someone that I didn't like new country music but liked old country music. This someone told me that old country was a little too redneck for them. I have precisely the opposite opinion. New country is way more redneck than old country. (Note that when I use the word "redneck", I mean it in a more pejorative sense of someone who is bourgeois, intolerant, uneducated, xenophobic, anti-intellectual, and too mainstream. I do not mean someone generally from the South, or a member of the working class, or a farmer, or anything like that. Those who are self-consciously redneck, or what I call "ironic rednecks" are not so bad in my opinion.)

New country is all about shoving the flag in my face and being fascist and the like. Old country sang about smoking dope, prison, murder, etc.



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12 Jun 2013, 2:45 pm

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...Southern Drawl, and modern crap like Taylor Swift is just plain awful.


What is the Indonesian equivalent of a Southern Drawl? Would it be the dialect spoken in Sulawesi? lol



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12 Jun 2013, 2:49 pm

I guess I sounded a little intolerant myself just there. But some attitude toward intolerance must be maintained. Either tolerate or be indifferent to intolerance, which is little better than acquiescing to that very intolerance, or be intolerant of it, which albeit its own sort of intolerance, is to me the lesser evil.



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14 Jun 2013, 8:43 am

Now here's a REAL country song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK8TSJuBMgM



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14 Jun 2013, 9:56 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg[/youtube]

Now, THAT'S good country! :P


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14 Jun 2013, 11:01 am

i do not like country and western music mainly because it is wistful drivel.



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14 Jun 2013, 11:09 am

GoonSquad wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg[/youtube]

Now, THAT'S good country! :P


Does Primus qualify as country to regular country music listeners? Awesome tunes, though. :D



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14 Jun 2013, 11:17 am

after consideration, apart from the tina arena song i posted earlier (that i like) i also like another song that i have considered may be country and western. montana is a western state is it not?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO_bKdRqkuQ[/youtube]



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21 Jun 2013, 11:27 am

IrishJew wrote:
Ganondox wrote:
...Southern Drawl, and modern crap like Taylor Swift is just plain awful.


What is the Indonesian equivalent of a Southern Drawl? Would it be the dialect spoken in Sulawesi? lol
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Maybe, I have no idea, I'm just a stupid American living here.

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GoonSquad wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYDfwUJzYQg[/youtube]

Now, THAT'S good country! :P


Does Primus qualify as country to regular country music listeners? Awesome tunes, though. :D


Well Primus is usually considered a Funk Metal or Alternative Rock group. I know the original DGDtG was Bluegrass, and the guy behind it is Country Rock. Anyway, I love that song, it's the type of Country I like.


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24 Jun 2013, 1:42 pm

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There's plenty of good country out there, but the stuff that's popular today is just atrocious. Toby Keith, Keith Urban, Lady Antebellum, Rascal Flatts, Shania Twain, Faith Hill, Taylor Swift, Sugarland, Carrie Underwood, the Dixie Chicks, Reba McEntire, Tim McGraw... the list of things I'd rather do than listen to five seconds of any of this shrill "music" is sordid indeed. Give me Johnny Cash, Waylon Jennings, David Allan Coe, and Dwight Yoakam. I can even respect older artists I don't even particularly enjoy, like Hank Williams. This modern "pop country" crap is to them what Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit, Nickelback, and Staind are to Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, and Slayer.


This, exactly this. The older stuff and a lot of alt-country (ie. No Depression music) is great, though. The 90's really was a golden age for alternative country music, just like it was for alternative rock and some of my favorite music of all time came from this period. Early Ryan Adams and Whiskeytown ... sigh.



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25 Jun 2013, 1:56 am

<--- Spent six months in Nashville trying to write country hits. Got a couple of songs out of the deal but the homelessness proved to be too much so he relocated to Seattle.



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25 Jun 2013, 4:53 pm

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<--- Spent six months in Nashville trying to write country hits. Got a couple of songs out of the deal but the homelessness proved to be too much so he relocated to Seattle.


Did any of them get recorded? Just curious if we might know any of your songs.



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25 Jun 2013, 11:55 pm

No. None of the songs were recorded professionally. Some titles are:

Hot Body, Cold Heart
Tennessee Sunset
King of Bad Decisions
The Perfect Man
Two Hearts In A Fire
Ain't Nothing' Bad 'Bout A Good Try
All the Tequila in Texas
Little Black Dress
Tied Up In Love
The Perfect Love
Seven Horses Wide

Interesting. All these songs have words and music already. Maybe some day I'll record them again with someone with a country voice singing 'em.