Do women make lots of effort to attract men?

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Robdemanc
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04 Jul 2013, 11:31 am

I wonder if women put a lot of effort into their appearance because they want to be confident that they will attract men. I find it hard to believe that they will wear lots of make up and take a long time getting ready simply because they want to "look nice". I think the underlying reason is that they aim to be the most attractive to the men that they come into contact with on a night out or whatever.

On the other hand I don't think men bother so much about getting ready to go out. They don't take ages with their hair and clothes and tend to automatically think they look good without making a huge effort.

I wonder if this is because in humans the female has evolved the instinct to attract the mate, rather than the male.

I know this sounds academic but do you think there is truth in this?



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04 Jul 2013, 11:46 am

Robdemanc wrote:
I wonder if women put a lot of effort into their appearance because they want to be confident that they will attract men. I find it hard to believe that they will wear lots of make up and take a long time getting ready simply because they want to "look nice". I think the underlying reason is that they aim to be the most attractive to the men that they come into contact with on a night out or whatever.

On the other hand I don't think men bother so much about getting ready to go out. They don't take ages with their hair and clothes and tend to automatically think they look good without making a huge effort.

I wonder if this is because in humans the female has evolved the instinct to attract the mate, rather than the male.

I know this sounds academic but do you think there is truth in this?


I have a man and he loves it when I get dressed nicely, hair done, with make up on as well. I don't feel comfortable going out looking like crap even if it's to go food shopping. Not to attract men, but I just don't feel confident if I look like crap. My social skills are bad enough already, and I've noticed that people tend to treat me better when I wear makeup and dress nicely. Like if I need help at a store or something, the workers are super nice to me, and maybe it's because of my appearance or maybe it's just because I appear confident and so that makes them want to be nice to me.



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04 Jul 2013, 11:51 am

It's not entirely about attracting guys. Some people are drawn to beauty in painting, music, or the culinary arts, and some are drawn to hair, clothes, etc. There's also a lot of female-female competition in some situations, and more influence from a younger age to spend more time on personal appearance. Little girls may get to play with makeup and get dresses for their dolls, but boys don't get toy cologne, toy workout benches for their abs, etc.



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04 Jul 2013, 12:17 pm

Maybe since most female human beings do not have as much of a capacity to get really ripped, make up and clothing become a way for a female to demonstrate that she takes care of herself, is clean, cares about the sensory, visual comfort and consistency that other people are experiencing. Whereas a man can work out and get visibly ripped and look healthy and like he cares about having strength to offer for whatever without extra frill.
Also, a female who looks like she has time to spend just toying with her appearance is a sign that she has extra resources, allowing her to WASTE time, and that is unconsciously read by men and appeals to instincts to mate with a female who has extra resources to spend on better providing for offspring.

see it doesn't have to be about very much mystical psychology, we can trace a lot back to just instincts on how to choose who to have sex with in order to strengthen the human race.



04 Jul 2013, 1:21 pm

Robdemanc wrote:
I wonder if women put a lot of effort into their appearance because they want to be confident that they will attract men. I find it hard to believe that they will wear lots of make up and take a long time getting ready simply because they want to "look nice". I think the underlying reason is that they aim to be the most attractive to the men that they come into contact with on a night out or whatever.

On the other hand I don't think men bother so much about getting ready to go out. They don't take ages with their hair and clothes and tend to automatically think they look good without making a huge effort.

I wonder if this is because in humans the female has evolved the instinct to attract the mate, rather than the male.

I know this sounds academic but do you think there is truth in this?


That is true but I think men are becoming more inclined to be aesthetically pleasing themselves, I take time to prepare myself if I am going to a social event and that could range from doing my hair in a certain style to moisturising, I have worn eye liner in the past as well.

If I am going to work on a normal day, I won't worry about my appearance but if I am going to a social event, I will make an effort. I think more and more women are becoming attracted to men who take care of themselves and that's why we are seeing many men follow metro-sexual trends now.



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04 Jul 2013, 1:30 pm

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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.



04 Jul 2013, 1:37 pm

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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.


The more choice they have, the more replaceable you are to them. Saying that every girl above a seven is being chased by a crowd of men which usually gives them a inflated sense of ego, particularly true when it comes to dating websites.



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04 Jul 2013, 1:45 pm

What I am asking is: Do women try to attract men more than men try to attract women?



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04 Jul 2013, 2:10 pm

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What I am asking is: Do women try to attract men more than men try to attract women?


No because they don't need to.

Unless they look *way* less than average, above that they don't.



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04 Jul 2013, 2:13 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.


That's not true at all.



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04 Jul 2013, 3:01 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.


That's not true at all.


Sorry, it is.
I weep when I see a gorgeous girl who cakes makeup on her face, like throwing ketchup on a masterpiece.
Makeup is a mask. If you're beautiful why would you wear a mask?
My girlfriend looks worse in makeup, maybe she just doesn't know how to do it properly but I prefer to be able to kiss her face without tasting chemicals, and feeling like I'm walking around with someone who's self esteem is so terrible they can't leave the house without a mask on.



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04 Jul 2013, 3:22 pm

uwmonkdm wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.


That's not true at all.


Sorry, it is.
I weep when I see a gorgeous girl who cakes makeup on her face, like throwing ketchup on a masterpiece.
Makeup is a mask. If you're beautiful why would you wear a mask?
My girlfriend looks worse in makeup, maybe she just doesn't know how to do it properly but I prefer to be able to kiss her face without tasting chemicals, and feeling like I'm walking around with someone who's self esteem is so terrible they can't leave the house without a mask on.



We're not talking about some girls look better without make-up. I think a lot of women would look better if they didn't wear that much make-up. Boo said that better looking women spend less effort attracting men (because they don't have to, supposedly) than less attractive women. I doubt it.



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04 Jul 2013, 3:53 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
uwmonkdm wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.


That's not true at all.


Sorry, it is.
I weep when I see a gorgeous girl who cakes makeup on her face, like throwing ketchup on a masterpiece.
Makeup is a mask. If you're beautiful why would you wear a mask?
My girlfriend looks worse in makeup, maybe she just doesn't know how to do it properly but I prefer to be able to kiss her face without tasting chemicals, and feeling like I'm walking around with someone who's self esteem is so terrible they can't leave the house without a mask on.



We're not talking about some girls look better without make-up. I think a lot of women would look better if they didn't wear that much make-up. Boo said that better looking women spend less effort attracting men (because they don't have to, supposedly) than less attractive women. I doubt it.


Less effort is required, that doesn't distinguish how she behaves.



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04 Jul 2013, 5:13 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.


That's not true at all.


If your bf was 5'8 he would have to do MUCH more effort to impress you in order to have you.



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04 Jul 2013, 5:18 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Cafeaulait wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Do women make lots of effort to attract men?


It's negatively correlated with looks, the better the woman looks the less the effort.


/ closing thread. --> since I said the ultimate truth.


That's not true at all.


If your bf was 5'8 he would have to do MUCH more effort to impress you in order to have you.


My husband is 5'5", and all he had to do is be himself to impress me. Perhaps guys should listen to other women for answers instead of providing their own interpretations of our behavior. :?



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04 Jul 2013, 5:24 pm

In my experience, many women make an effort to look like what they think other women think me like. I am guilty of this. Most women who do it don't realize that is what they are doing.

People like to be perceived as attractive. Even if they aren't looking for a date or if no one will see it (like sexy lingerie) the feeling of being attractive is a confidence booster.

I don't think men make as much effort trying to increase physical attractiveness.


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