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KMB6167
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19 Jul 2013, 3:32 am

Guys, I am having some serious trouble with pornography.

Here is my story.

I went to this online site clips4sale and looked at videos to purchase. I looked for one and then I decided to purchase it. I looked at the video and it made me excited. Then I realized that there was something wrong. It was holding me back from progress and seeing god (I am a christian by the way.) Is there any way that I could escape this porn problem? It is ruining my teenage hood. :oops:



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19 Jul 2013, 3:56 am

The guilt you feel is an unfair burden placed on you by a Christian belief system that is set in opposition to our natural, biological impulses. Good for you for reaching out but I would just say that you should enjoy your porn in a healthy way and understand that you are not being judged on any level.

In other words, you are healthy and normal :D



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19 Jul 2013, 4:15 am

There are ways to keep yourself satisfied by building your body instead of breaking it. Work out more than you already do; this should keep the body pleased.

But as it has been said, this is also a biological need. You're being informed indirectly that you should start looking for a partner or adjust your life to being able to accommodate a sexual life (having a stable source of income, developing as a person etc.). After all, in Christianity the word 'sin' translates as 'miss' - right idea but wrong execution. Sins are seemingly good things done wrong.



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19 Jul 2013, 8:27 am

I find it helpful to keep in mind that the sexuality that is portrayed in pornography is unsubstantial. It does not fill any of my spiritual or emotional needs. I used to struggle with an addiction to pornography, and it was like having a spiritual/emotional diet based solely on high fructose corn syrup.

Pornography is not just degrading to the people on the camera. It is degrading to the people who watch it. It has an effect on many people that is not unlike crack cocaine. Really, nobody deserves to put themselves through a soul-deadening gauntlet like that.

I do acknowledge that some people can take it or leave it. That does not necessarily make it a good thing.

There is hope in overcoming pornography troubles. It really can be done. It's not easy, but the benefits of recovery are more than worth the effort. I have found that the combination of working a 12-step program and seeing a therapist that I trust has been beneficial to me, but first I had to convince myself that I was worth the effort of recovery. Remember, we all are worthy of a spiritually sober life, and we all have the right to reach out for it.



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19 Jul 2013, 10:38 am

He's a 17 year old male. Unless you've been there, you cannot possibly understand the hormonal firestorm hes experiencing. If there's no sexual outlet, thats where problems arise. \he's doing what he needs to do to handle his biology...he just needs to know that it's OK.

I almost got carpal tunnel syndrome at that age.



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19 Jul 2013, 12:28 pm

murbark wrote:
He's a 17 year old male. Unless you've been there, you cannot possibly understand the hormonal firestorm hes experiencing. If there's no sexual outlet, thats where problems arise. \he's doing what he needs to do to handle his biology...he just needs to know that it's OK.

I almost got carpal tunnel syndrome at that age.


Exactly. That's even more of a reason why now is a time to focus on forming a healthy fantasy life instead of stuffing the brain with crass and degrading pornography. Porn can become habitual during the teen years, and that can extend well into adulthood if one is not careful. I am speaking from personal experience; porn is not a great outlet.



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19 Jul 2013, 4:16 pm

Porn is proof God wants us to be happy.


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19 Jul 2013, 4:34 pm

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murbark wrote:
He's a 17 year old male. Unless you've been there, you cannot possibly understand the hormonal firestorm hes experiencing. If there's no sexual outlet, thats where problems arise. \he's doing what he needs to do to handle his biology...he just needs to know that it's OK.

I almost got carpal tunnel syndrome at that age.


Exactly. That's even more of a reason why now is a time to focus on forming a healthy fantasy life instead of stuffing the brain with crass and degrading pornography. Porn can become habitual during the teen years, and that can extend well into adulthood if one is not careful. I am speaking from personal experience; porn is not a great outlet.
Definitely true. Plus porn can make a person dissatisfied with a real woman, because she's not perfectly airbrushed, perky, or willing to do the degrading things that the person might have come to associate with sexual release.

That kind of person -who's training/trained himself to avoid it or get over it- earns a big kudos from me.

To KMB6167, keep it up, you're doing what is good, even though it might be hard at times. The secular world will be calling you a fool, they will even degrade or make fun of Christianity, but don't let that stop you. The secular world is hung up on sex, acting as if it's the most important thing and acting as if people are little more then mindless beasts who run on instinct. If that were true, I would be laying with both men and women, because that is who I am attracted to. But we aren't, and even the scientists of old have said, that man's reasoning to overcome his baser instincts, is what separates him from animals.


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19 Jul 2013, 5:09 pm

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KagamineLen wrote:
murbark wrote:
He's a 17 year old male. Unless you've been there, you cannot possibly understand the hormonal firestorm hes experiencing. If there's no sexual outlet, thats where problems arise. \he's doing what he needs to do to handle his biology...he just needs to know that it's OK.

I almost got carpal tunnel syndrome at that age.


Exactly. That's even more of a reason why now is a time to focus on forming a healthy fantasy life instead of stuffing the brain with crass and degrading pornography. Porn can become habitual during the teen years, and that can extend well into adulthood if one is not careful. I am speaking from personal experience; porn is not a great outlet.
Definitely true. Plus porn can make a person dissatisfied with a real woman, because she's not perfectly airbrushed, perky, or willing to do the degrading things that the person might have come to associate with sexual release.

That kind of person -who's training/trained himself to avoid it or get over it- earns a big kudos from me.

To KMB6167, keep it up, you're doing what is good, even though it might be hard at times. The secular world will be calling you a fool, they will even degrade or make fun of Christianity, but don't let that stop you. The secular world is hung up on sex, acting as if it's the most important thing and acting as if people are little more then mindless beasts who run on instinct. If that were true, I would be laying with both men and women, because that is who I am attracted to. But we aren't, and even the scientists of old have said, that man's reasoning to overcome his baser instincts, is what separates him from animals.


The true delusion is believing you're somehow above the animals and that denying your base urges is somehow healthier.



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19 Jul 2013, 5:23 pm

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The true delusion is believing you're somehow above the animals and that denying your base urges is somehow healthier.


Anybody can use that argument in an attempt to justify any asshole-ish behavior.

Humans are gifted with free will. I am of the opinion that if humans acted on their base urges alone, we would have all been wiped off the planet a very long time ago.



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19 Jul 2013, 5:33 pm

Thanks guys for the support. Right now I'm mentally fighting my evil side called pornography.

Here is my poem


Fight my Bad Side

I have a problem
diagnosed by god
My evil side called pornography
He looks like me only he is a fraud.

He caused me to jack off
he held me back
he messed up my room
and made my bed go clickity clack

My evil impostor
used my money
to buy something on clips4sale
and make porn sweet as honey

But it is now over
It is time to fight
screw you pornography
GET OUT OF MY SIGHT!



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19 Jul 2013, 5:40 pm

The thing about God is, most of the commandments he gives us, and that we are "sinners"for if we fail, doesn't actually benefit him, it benefits us.

Case in point, watching the sort of mind-blowingly exciting stuff you can watch in clips4sale.

What happens is that you get used to that, but when you meet a real life girl, maybe somebody you love, and she just lies there like a sack of potatoes as girls often do in the real world, instead of finding your beloved incredibly sexually exciting, and living the life of bliss God wants you to live, you will be so bored that you will have to think of the clips4sale fantasy, just to be able to come, so even when you get reality, you will still be stuck in a life of w*kers fantasy, along of course with mentally cheating on your beloved.

When you have a full gun that really must be fired, instead of enhancing the experience to unobtainable levels, just knock one off in the bathroom so the gun is emptied, the urges go, but you are left innocent and ready to have your mind blown when a real Woman comes along.



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19 Jul 2013, 5:45 pm

why pay for porn when its available free all over the internet



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19 Jul 2013, 6:42 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
The true delusion is believing you're somehow above the animals and that denying your base urges is somehow healthier.


Anybody can use that argument in an attempt to justify any as*hole-ish behavior.

Humans are gifted with free will. I am of the opinion that if humans acted on their base urges alone, we would have all been wiped off the planet a very long time ago.
Yes indeed.

Base Urge: Instinctive desire to eat sweets and fats
Undenied Urge? You will eventually weigh as much as a baby elephant. Especially with today's high calorie foods.

Base Urge: Sexual desire and at times, desire to sleep with multiple partners
Undenied Urge? Good possibility of STDs, of which many are becoming resistant to their treatments. And for those of who think 'passing on their genes' is their main purpose in life? Some of these STDs can make you infertile.

Base Urge: Unrestrained Anger
Undenied Urge: In this day of guns and nukes, would you want your neighbor country acting on their 'base animal urge' when they have a nuke in their possession? It might be 'natural' for them, but it won't end so happy for you.

It's why I can't stand these 'base urge' arguments, especially when we actually have the neurological component that allows us to suppress/control our urges. Those who don't have it, tend to do many things that tend to get them in trouble or sick, and these folks pretty much either end up in jail or institutions because they can't be out in public.


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19 Jul 2013, 8:37 pm

I can't change your religious views, but there is nothing wrong with porn. Go for it.


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19 Jul 2013, 9:27 pm

KMB6167 wrote:
Guys, I am having some serious trouble with pornography.

Here is my story.

I went to this online site clips4sale and looked at videos to purchase. I looked for one and then I decided to purchase it. I looked at the video and it made me excited. Then I realized that there was something wrong. It was holding me back from progress and seeing god (I am a christian by the way.) Is there any way that I could escape this porn problem? It is ruining my teenage hood. :oops:


I think it's unfair to shift blame on his belief system when it wasn't that what he was asking. He is Christian and his interests in pornography is causing him to feel conflicted.

I am Catholic. I haven't been to church in decades. I have learned and taken what applies to me and take the rest with a grain of salt. Maybe this is something you can do for yourself as well. Religion is there to guide us. Nothing is written in stone and not everything needs to be applied.

Pornography is not a way I'd like my son to learn about his sexuality. There are better ways of doing that, that doesn't mislead a teenager. The internet is just too graphic and accessible and we don't need to have all that information in order to learn our way through life.