Jono wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
Fnord wrote:
@Housedays: How the feck would WE know? Why don't you ask HIM?
Because he's in hiding and afraid to come out.
As for the OP, this is exactly why omnipotence itself is illogical. The best a God can be is be the most powerful, but not omnipotent.
Omniscience is also a logical contradiction. I thought this video was appropriate here:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc[/youtube]
I do love this video. Let's mathematically model this video into set theory.
Let's say we have these sets M, G1,G2,G3,G4.
M stands for man
G stands for a god.
M is a subset of G1.
G1 is a subset of G2.
G2 is a subset of G3.
G3 is a subset of G4.
G4 is a subset of M.
To me, it seems like there are greater and greater levels of omniscience and each being is only omniscient in their given sets and subsets. Each being does not know what is in the greater superset and don't even know there may be a greater superset. God may think he knows all and may not even conceive of what is beyond him. What if mankind is the least but in another way is the most and we don't even realize it and we can't even conceive of it.
OMG, the maker of this video doesn't even realize it but this man has disproven Gödel's incompleteness theorems. What if there is a member that is a subset in a given system of supersets that is the greatest superset of all? Think about it this way. You have a container filled with water. It is completely sealed. You turn the container upside. The bottom becomes the top and the top becomes the bottom.