02 Dec 2013, 5:57 pm
03 Dec 2013, 4:15 am
I remember when I started smoking cigars, I did a bit of research to see if it would effect my health insurance rates and discovered that according to the actuarial tables there was no discernible health impact until you smoked more than 2 cigars a day, and the health insurers have the most reasons to exaggerate the health effects out of anyone. I can barely manage to fit one 30-90 minute smoke into a day, let alone two, and the expense would add up quickly too. Strangely enough, cigars can be cheaper than cigarettes if you buy online, I've bought bundles of decent robustos for less than a dollar each shipped, dirt cheap if you measure by weight.
I do love it when I light one of things in public and someone who's 100 yards away and upwind starts giving me the stink eye and faking a cough, I always find an excuse to go and make conversation with those people. It's even more amusing if I happen to be open carrying that day... 
03 Dec 2013, 7:40 am
I do love it when I light one of things in public and someone who's 100 yards away and upwind starts giving me the stink eye and faking a cough, I always find an excuse to go and make conversation with those people. It's even more amusing if I happen to be open carrying that day...
Oh how I hope we cross paths one day...
03 Dec 2013, 11:16 pm
As was already covered extensively in that previous 'smoking' locked topic (which thus must not be discussed) the official estimates state that smoking tax in no way covers the expense to society of smokers. I find it amazingly ignorant and arrogant that so many smokers seem to imagine that they are 'saving society money'.
No they haven't, and I agree that they are both rude and arrogant. As well as ignorant.
They haven't even managed to pull one study out of their arse to "prove" that smokers are all so super-intelligent, before starting up with the personal insults.
Such an unintelligent thing to do.... I read a great deal, and have no interest in publicly taking drugs... especially those which negatively affect others.
The government are not addicted to the tax revenue from fags (not in this country anyhow) , however they are reluctant to provoke a riot by banning fag smoking.
A lot of smokers vote in elections, also.
Smokers who are less antisocial can thank people like this for being selfish by bothering other people with their public smoking, antagonising people who are negatively affected by it, trying to be threatening while doing so by openly displaying firearms, and thus making smokers in general seem like selfish and inconsiderate douchebags.
If smokers wish to be less reviled by society and give less fuel to progressive anti-smoking law lobbyists, then you might want to work on changing the attitudes of people like this... because they clearly don't care at all about non-smokers, and provide a very strong public overall image of smokers with their 'charming' behaviour.
03 Dec 2013, 11:26 pm
04 Dec 2013, 1:04 am
04 Dec 2013, 2:12 am
I don't recall the title of this topic being "everybody be nice to smokers".
Charityfunday, you are in danger of being perceived as a condescending and irrepressible bore who has nothing constructive to add to the discussion.
Well now Pete, Your torrent of swearing and general juvenile tantrumming got that other topic locked.
I guess you want the same thing to happen in this one ?
I already wrote at length about my experiences with smokers in one of the other smoking WP topics.
If you're going to make a load of crap up, and pretend like you know people when you really don't.... then that's really lame.
I'm not sure how you think religion comes into it.
I would happily throw stink bombs at you if I saw you smoking where you shouldn't be or annoying other people with it, while being a douchebag about it.
tsk tsk so you're still trying to blame other people for your own inability to give up smoking, and decision to be an annoying jerk about it... eh ?
You admitted yourself that you get off on being antisocial about smoking. How tedious of you.
If non-smoking women are turned off by your public displays of smoking, then why don't you get a nice anti-social smoker girlfriend instead ?
You could share your cloud of fag reek, and harass non-smokers on dates together because you both get off on it.
It could be very romantic.
I'm also still waiting for the faintest shred of evidence that smokers are more intelligent than non-smokers.... I guess that you pair can't find any either ?
04 Dec 2013, 2:31 am
Also...
Just.... what ?
Are you illiterate or something ?
You're mocking me for not reading (when I do) ... but from what I can see you haven't even bothered to read over what you posted to see that it made no sense.
What are you even trying to convey ?
I believe that you can surely manage to find evidence to back that up yourself, right ?
I mean, if it's true and all... then surely you would be able to.
04 Dec 2013, 2:56 am
04 Dec 2013, 3:31 am
04 Dec 2013, 4:42 am
04 Dec 2013, 5:33 am
Why do you have so much hatred of non-smokers?
I have a hatred of anti-smokers like you, who get all high and mighty as if they are better than smokers. And lobby to have laws pass that restrict my addiction. Addicts don't like threats to their addiction. If I can do something to annoy you, I will. I hate you.
why are you bothering to post in this topic, since you won't convince non-smokers to be any more tolerant of smokers who are bothering them ?
Because I am angry and I can't stop thinking about how pissed off I am at your B*tc*y attitude.
Why do you seem to have the notion that I should tailor my comments towards convincing smokers to quit ?
I don't think you need to tailor your comments, I just want to know why you make your self righteous comments.
I'm trying to get you to admit that you make the comments that you do because you like to feel superior, maybe because someone made you feel inferior in the past.
The OP asked for peoples views on smokers, and I am providing my views.
Why is this such an issue for you ?
And your views SUCK!! ! You SUCK Bi*ch!! !!
...and BIG FREAKIN DEAL I'M BEING JUVENILE, I DON'T GIVE A Sh*T!! !!
you win again, happy now?
Ah, that's it... show us your natural charm, Pete. To answer your question :
I take great delight in winding you up, as you're clearly a fairly obnoxious person.
Problem ? Why are you so angry and easily frustrated anyway ?
Is it because (contrary to popular belief) smoking fags does nothing to decrease stress or anxiety levels, and in fact elevates them ?
Smoking reduces nicotine withdrawal symptoms, which are similar to the symptoms of anxiety, but it does not reduce anxiety or deal with the underlying causes.
My views are awesome. On the other hand, you literally suck butts.
I hope that nobody reports this topic like they did with the last one, at least for a while ... because I find your juvenile outburst of insults rather amusing.
Just check out Pete here... he's such a crabby creature.
If you don't want to end up like him by your middle age years, then it could be advisable to quit smoking before then.
Pete ol' pal, for all you know some people might find this information helpful when it comes to giving up fags.
04 Dec 2013, 7:13 am
Smokers who are less antisocial can thank people like this for being selfish by bothering other people with their public smoking, antagonising people who are negatively affected by it, trying to be threatening while doing so by openly displaying firearms, and thus making smokers in general seem like selfish and inconsiderate douchebags.
If smokers wish to be less reviled by society and give less fuel to progressive anti-smoking law lobbyists, then you might want to work on changing the attitudes of people like this... because they clearly don't care at all about non-smokers, and provide a very strong public overall image of smokers with their 'charming' behaviour.
Ladywoofwoof, you need to be more careful that the zeal and denigrating tone with which you're attacking WP's smokers in this thread doesn't veer any further into breaking site rules - a zeal which in your haste to pile in with insinuations and insults, blinds you to the joke being made here about the entirely self-righteous reactions to smoking from someone upwind, 100 yards away.
You've made your point, several times: you have an intense dislike for smoking and for smokers.
That's enough now.
04 Dec 2013, 7:53 am
Biased moderation much, Cornflake ?
So... you seemingly have no problem with Pete cursing and swearing at me, calling me a b***h, declaring that I suck and suchlike ... since your only criticism has been entirely directed at myself.
hmmmm....
So, is it fine for smokers such as Pete to spew vitriol at non-smokers such as myself ?
I mean, you seem astonishingly complacent about that, especially given how much of a problem you seem to have with what I said.
So you're probably a smoker too then, I presume, if you think that's all ok (which you certainly seem to) ?
Well, I reckon that if it's ok for smokers to claim that non-smokers are more stupid (with no evidence or admonishment forthcoming) it's surely totally fine for me to remark that actually smokers are comparatively stupid .... and that there's evidence to back that up.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4078841.stm
I actually couldn't give a sh*t if people choose to smoke but aren't harassing other people in the process (ie by polluting the air which people are trying to breathe, hurling insults, or burning them with lit fags), littering the place with rubbish such as fag butts. Not walking about stinking like an old ashtray is also a bonus.
If people smoke in a civil manner (ie disposing of rubbish properly, not harassing others, and at least trying not to stink like an old bin) then a lot of the time other people might not even know that they are smokers.
This is one of the reasons for why I have no problem with pot smokers, or those who dabble in various legal smoking herbs.
You shouldn't make such bizarre leaps of assumption about me Cornflake, since you hardly know me.
And yes, Dox's comment was no doubt hilarious.
He must be wearing binoculars to be able to see people people making "a stink eye" from 90 metres away, though.... and really keen to be annoying if he walks/runs 90 metres over just to smoke near them in the guise of striking up a random conversation with strangers, while flashing weaponry. Please excuse me, I think I just split a side from laughing... so now I have to go and call emergency services.
ohoho (clutches sides) my god, so funny.
04 Dec 2013, 8:02 am
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04 Dec 2013, 10:11 am
No they haven't, and I agree that they are both rude and arrogant. As well as ignorant.
They haven't even managed to pull one study out of their arse to "prove" that smokers are all so super-intelligent, before starting up with the personal insults.
Such an unintelligent thing to do.... I read a great deal, and have no interest in publicly taking drugs... especially those which negatively affect others.
The government are not addicted to the tax revenue from fags (not in this country anyhow) , however they are reluctant to provoke a riot by banning fag smoking.
A lot of smokers vote in elections, also.
Smokers who are less antisocial can thank people like this for being selfish by bothering other people with their public smoking, antagonising people who are negatively affected by it, trying to be threatening while doing so by openly displaying firearms, and thus making smokers in general seem like selfish and inconsiderate douchebags.
If smokers wish to be less reviled by society and give less fuel to progressive anti-smoking law lobbyists, then you might want to work on changing the attitudes of people like this... because they clearly don't care at all about non-smokers, and provide a very strong public overall image of smokers with their 'charming' behaviour.
Regarding my claims that nicotine has beneficial properties, since it took me less than five seconds to come up with the following, do you have character enough to apologize for calling me "ignorant"? As far as Oktober goes, I'm giving him a pass as he obviously has very serious emotional issues. I've always expected better out of you though. Are you going to disappoint me?
https://www.google.com/search?q=benefic ... 3&ie=UTF-8
