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pawelk1986
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25 Dec 2013, 3:04 am

I once read article about famous people with AS, Da Vinci, Michel Angelo, Newton, Einstein.

I'm little proud that i have AS like this great genius, while i'm not, but recently i read that Hitler probably had AS too, with make me little upset, because i don't want have anything i common with this guy :D



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25 Dec 2013, 3:38 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
I once read article about famous people with AS, Da Vinci, Michel Angelo, Newton, Einstein.

I'm little proud that i have AS like this great genius, while i'm not, but recently i read that Hitler probably had AS too, with make me little upset, because i don't want have anything i common with this guy :D


I always heard Hitler was not that smart. He made bad decisions. Search google "Hitler almost won" and see all the bad decisions they compiled about him. He would ignore or countermand his experienced generals. That sounds like narcassism, not AS.

Search google "Hitler naracssism".



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25 Dec 2013, 4:17 am

Hitler wasn't an Aspie! Im not saying aspies can be bad and evil people im just saying Hitler wasnt an aspie!


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25 Dec 2013, 5:07 am

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Hitler wasn't an Aspie! Im not saying aspies can be bad and evil people im just saying Hitler wasnt an aspie!


Maybe yes maybe not allknowing all-knowing Wikipedia gives otherwise :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrospect ... _of_autism



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25 Dec 2013, 5:14 am

pawelk1986 wrote:
I once read article about famous people with AS, Da Vinci, Michel Angelo, Newton, Einstein.

I'm little proud that i have AS like this great genius, while i'm not, but recently i read that Hitler probably had AS too, with make me little upset, because i don't want have anything i common with this guy :D

It is utterly impossible to diagnose people who lived hundreds of years ago, such as Da Vinci, Michelangelo, and Newton.

Einstein and Hitler are slightly more valid because, whilst both died before AS diagnosis existed, they existed in the information age, and an awful lot was written about them both. Einstein in particular, because people who knew him probably lived long enough to speak about his personality to people who would become autism experts. Hitler is more challenging because most people who knew him well died in 1945.

I'm sceptical of all posthumous diagnoses, and indeed "speculative" ones made of celebrities by armchair psychiatrists. Unless a person was actually diagnosed with autism, there's not much point saying "he was autistic". Particularly as, such as with Einstein and Hitler, these are made because of a superficial understanding of autism ("oh, he liked a topic... and he sometimes didn't like people!" is an approximation of a common justification for a posthumous autism diagnosis).

With Hitler, people seem to overlook his charisma (which was so important in his rise to power), and focus on his obsessions. Yes, it is true that autistic people can be charismatic, but there are far more obsessive NTs than charismatic autistic people.

In any case, you have a lot in common with Hitler. You are both human males. You both eat, breathe, respire, excrete waste, and think. If you like dogs, you are like Hitler. If you have some passing concern for animal welfare, you are like Hitler. If you are vegetarian, you are like Hitler. If you are born in the Northern and Eastern hemispheres, you are like Hitler. If you are around 1.75m tall, you are like Hitler. I could go on.



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25 Dec 2013, 5:56 am

The_Walrus wrote:
It is utterly impossible to diagnose people who lived hundreds of years ago, such as Da Vinci, Michelangelo, and Newton.
'nuff said. ^

I'll give this thread an early retirement - let's leave this type of pointless speculation for Random Discussion, Ok? :wink:
(where it's already been done to death more times than I care to remember)


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