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billiscool
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22 Jan 2014, 7:52 pm

this is starting to annoy me,Why do feminist and their white
knight allies,think if a guy get laid or gets a GF,he's going become
a Pro-feminist,I've been laid and had girlfriends before,have female
friends,Yet,Im not pro-feminist.

Also,not every guy who is anti-feminist is a sexless,''losers''who
hits on supermodel.there are Married men who are anti feminist,same with
players and Alpha male,even women can be anti-feminist too.

being anti-feminist,doesn't make you anti-women,either.



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22 Jan 2014, 7:54 pm

billiscool wrote:
this is starting to annoy me,Why do feminist and their white
knight allies,think if a guy get laid or gets a GF,he's going become
a Pro-feminist,I've been laid and had girlfriends before,have female
friends,Yet,Im not pro-feminist.

Also,not every guy who is anti-feminist is a sexless,''losers''who
hits on supermodel.Married men are anti feminist,same with
players and Alpha male,even women can be anti-feminist too.

being anti-feminist,doesn't make you anti-women,either.
Because they want you to make them a sandwitch and put the seat down after peeing!


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22 Jan 2014, 7:56 pm

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Yet,Im not pro-feminist.


I'm curious. Which aspects of feminism are you against?
Because if it's the idea that women are people and not inferior and thus should have rights equal to men: if you're against that, then yeah, you are anti-women.


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22 Jan 2014, 8:11 pm

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Yet,Im not pro-feminist.


I'm curious. Which aspects of feminism are you against?


there are many,but one is they have a victim complex disorder.



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22 Jan 2014, 8:16 pm

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Because they want you to make them a sandwitch and put the seat down after peeing!


First pee. Then make them a sandwich. And, then, finally put the seat down? Some of the more hard core Feminists might make you wash your hands before you made their sandwich.



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22 Jan 2014, 8:18 pm

how confident are you that what you are opposed to is not a poorly informed caricature of feminism?

have you read much feminist literature?

do you view women as generally or inherently inferior to men?



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22 Jan 2014, 8:24 pm

Who_Am_I wrote:
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Yet,Im not pro-feminist.
I'm curious. Which aspects of feminism are you against? Because if it's the idea that women are people and not inferior and thus should have rights equal to men: if you're against that, then yeah, you are anti-women.

"Not Pro-Feminist" does not always mean "Anti-Feminist"; it could also mean "Indifferent to Feminism" in a passive sort of way.

I believe that the civil rights of individuals do not depend on their anatomy, their appearance or their genetics. This means that I also believe that people have the same rights under the law regardless of their race, gender, gender identity, national origin, color, ethnicity, religion*, disability, or other characteristics; and without privilege, discrimination, or bias.

But sometimes I let my feelings regarding certain individuals get in the way of those beliefs; but this is based on their attitudes and their behavior, and does not apply to other members of their particular race, gender, gender identity, national origin, color, ethnicity, religion, disability, or other characteristics. Thus, an individual's attitudes or behavior may determine how I treat them with regard to privilege, discrimination, or bias.

But that's just me.


*Provided that they do not try to impose their religion on me, declare that their religion is the only true religion, or use their religion to justify abuse, bigotry, or the commission of heinous acts against other people.



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22 Jan 2014, 8:25 pm

another one:feminist act like they represent all women.
Yes,an angry feminist women who yells at guys,does
not represent women(some people here,may know's what
lady Im talking about)



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22 Jan 2014, 8:30 pm

I just really don't see what the point of feminism is exactly. I think males, females and whatever else(not everyone falls into male or female) should all have equal rights. But are men and woman the same? Probably not, we have gender differences obviously.


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22 Jan 2014, 8:43 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17hiPwbMNcE[/youtube]


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22 Jan 2014, 8:50 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxvujEmyiPQ[/youtube]


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22 Jan 2014, 10:17 pm

billiscool wrote:
Who_Am_I wrote:
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Yet,Im not pro-feminist.


I'm curious. Which aspects of feminism are you against?


there are many,but one is they have a victim complex disorder.


Pointing out inequalities that actually exist is not the same as having a victim complex.


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22 Jan 2014, 10:22 pm

>>>AspieOtaku (can't link websites due to post count)

The type of feminism that you are depicting through that drawing is the early form of feminism, which is synonymous to gender egalitarianism today. Modern feminism is the general movement in favor of more rights for females, radical or not. The proper term for someone who wants the genders to be equal is a gender egalitarian, which is a bit wordy but correct.



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22 Jan 2014, 10:23 pm

I'm with you billiscool. It's like some people think that the only way to be pro-equality is to call yourself a feminist.

I consider women my equals (well okay, men's equals; it's not easy to be my equal). I believe they should have the same rights as men. I believe the ways women are discriminated against should be addressed.

But because I take issue with certain parts of feminist ideology, specifically the idea of male privilege (at least without recognizing the corresponding female privilege), it's assumed that I'm a knuckle dragging MRA as*hole, that I want women back in the kitchen, and that the only way I could have a relationship would be if I bought one from Russia (and I'd probably just end up beating her or something). And all these judgements are delivered with a smug sense of undeserved moral superiority. Which, I suppose, is easier than addressing the actual issues I bring up.


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