What do you think about immigration?

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I personally believe immigration to be wrong due to economic reasons and if a country is unable to support people with jobs and a sufficient income due to problems regarding immigration, then I believe it becomes a problem. Saying this however, I believe there are in fact economic benefits to immigration in which cheap labour means that businesses can grow and expand and thus allow more people in general work. Of course, I am against anyone, regardless of the country they are from, exploiting welfare when it is unnecessary however I do not believe that is the case with most people coming over and many people wish to work. Also, I do not see any equivalency between being born here and having a right to live here and I believe having the right to live anywhere is a metaphysical fiction(rights in general I believe to be a complete fiction). I also do not believe there is such thing as English culture, which is where I am from, since English culture is a mish-mash of various other cultures. Tea, which is considered the epitome of English culture was taken from India during the days of the East Indian Company. Most of the music, such as the Beatles, is derived from the Blues, which is African American and most of the mythology, which is supposedly taken from Germany. Thus most of that which we define as British culture is not British culture but has been plagiarized from other cultures due to the British Empire. Anyway, what are your thoughts on immigration?

Immigration is necessary because the transfer of skills and labour is every bit as necessary as the transfer of capital.

I don't agree that the only benefit of immigration is cheap labour. A significant number of skilled professionals, such as doctors, scientists and engineers come to the developed world mainly from countries like China and India.

The welfare argument is something that i don't have an awful lot of time for while vast billions of pounds are evading the treasury in the form of corporate tax evasion. Welfare abuse by both the indigenous and migrant communities constitutes only a tiny fragment of financial transgressions against the UK state. However its the only one thats rigorously attacked because its a cheap way of scoring political points and keeping the financeer friends of the big political parties happy.
Also its a lie that immigration and welfare abuse can even be connected. Its impossible for new entrants to the country to access benefits.

Open the borders. If you want in, you get in. You should be denied admission if you have a serious criminal record or carry some exotic disease, but otherwise come on over.

I was not saying that only benefit was that. As you say, the NHS is currently being supported by many Doctors from foreign countries who do an exceptionally good job. It also allows people to experience other cultures, other ways of living, food, language, religion(which is not always good) and so forth. I suppose some people may say that transfer of capital need to be regulated to some degree as many British infrastructures are being sold to foreign investors though.

I agree that welfare abuse is very small in comparison to massive amounts of corporate tax evasion and many of the problems people say are an outcome of immigration such as lack of jobs, economic recession and so forth are also the outcome of massive amounts of financial and corporate fraud. Saying this however, I would not say this justifies any form of exploitation of welfare since it is nevertheless an exploitation of the money many people have worked for regardless of whether it is happening on a worse scale. Just because there are millions of murders going on in a particular war does not make a single murder less immoral in some way. Is that definitely true about immigrants and benefits?

Immigrants have a high morale and take very little for granted. Most European economies are f*cked without immigration.

And what about it if it creates a sever lack of job opportunities and places a lot of pressure of the infrastructures inside the countries that are opening their borders? Do you think that the economic nature of the country should be altered to fit such needs? May I just say that I am all in favour of immigration as long as it does not cause serious economic harm to the citizens living there, which at the moment it does not seem to be doing. In fact, it seems to be doing the opposite.

I agree, many of the immigrants I have known seem to be very hard-workers. Not to say that British people are idle in some way but nevertheless...Plus, the fact that immigration allows businesses to expand since they are provided with more workers surely means that they are able to take on more people since they are more financially secure.

King Arthur was right.

They should kick out all of the descendants of the Anglo Saxons invaders,of the Danish Vikings, and of the Norman Conquerors, from Britain.

Everyone who came in after Britain was a Roman province ( all non-Celts) - just show 'em the door!

Bunch of immigrant scum!

Even the very name "England" is an abomination! Why you guys choose to name your country after a tribe of Krauts is beyond me ('land of the Angles'- the Angles were a tribe that came from Schleswig-Holstein)!

The Royal Family itsself are a bunch of braceros from a foriegn country!

You all are fifteen centuries overdue for immigration reform!

Please, please, please tell me you are joking...

Legal immigration is good, illegal immigration is bad. The ones that are pushing for "immigration reform" aka amnesty in the US are the globalist big business types who want a larger cheaper pool of labor versus actually having to pay their workers.

Exactly. When people talk about globalization, I always like to make sure what type of globalization they are talking about. There is the kind of globalization in which people are legally immigrating and integrating into other cultures and then there is the other type of globalization, which is when massive private corporations spread their influence to a more and more areas across the globe and use multi-culturalism as a way of justifying such a corporate strategy.

And Cochise, and Sitting Bull were right! All of those illegile aliens shouldve been deported from the USA (the ones who snuck into the USA via Plymouth Rock, Jamestown, and Ellis Island)!

the whole idea of 'immigration' is a toxic byproduct of the nation-state.

I'm an immigrant in the UK, and although I'm from Eastern Europe originally, the Cheddar Man (the oldest human remains found in Britain) is my DNA relative. so I reckon I have every freaking right to be here

anyway, immigrants pay more in taxes than they take in welfare & healthcare—that's a fact, at least in Britain. economically of course there is every reason to control the borders, but not in case of the UK which is draining brains from the rest of Europe.

I'm considering to emigrate to the UK as well after I finish my degree. Coming from a EEA country, I automatically get a residence permit.

The US is made up of immigrant stock in one form or another.
I have no issues with LEGAL immigration but I do have an issue with ILLEGAL immigration.

I think it is a good idea. I am the grandson of immigrants.

ruveyn