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Is male sexuality inherently predatory?
Yes 25%  25%  [ 8 ]
Maybe 16%  16%  [ 5 ]
No 59%  59%  [ 19 ]
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27 Feb 2014, 3:17 pm

In other discussion topics which somehow touched upon the topic of rape, a number of Feminists stated some variations of the now-familiar trope "rape isn’t about sex, it’s about power and control", or even going so far as to claim that "rape isn't sex."

I came across an interesting essay, which was written by a former executive ejaculatory administrator, and which seems to turn that viewpoint on its head.

http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2010 ... f-control/

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As I’ve pointed out before, male sexuality tends to get out of control when untended. I’m sure every sexually experienced female reader knows exactly what I’m talking about; if for some reason you can’t give your man any tail for a while his sexual fantasies and sex talk usually start to get stranger and more extreme as the days go by, and your normal man’s sexuality may go from vanilla to kinky to perverted to weird to just plain sick. Most men don’t really want to do the more unusual stuff they’re talking about, but they sure as hell think about it, and one can only imagine how bad it gets for men who don’t have regular bed partners. Whores, of course, don’t have to imagine; we see all the time what happens when an untended male fire spreads beyond its proper boundaries and endangers others. If the untended male is in the right (or rather, wrong) position these can even become wildfires which threaten entire populations and can cause millions of dollars of damage.

The most common way in which the uncontrolled male sex drive can be dangerous is of course rape, though amazingly enough there are many people who deny this. Back in the early 1970s (before neofeminists took over the movement), leading feminists wanted to call attention to the problem of rape, yet didn’t want to scare women by also calling attention to the fact that male sexuality is inherently predatory. In other words, they did not want to risk reversing the gains of the “sexual revolution” by allowing the average woman to realize that sex has a powerful, profound and untamable dark side and that consequently, sexual freedom carries risks. Note the strong taint of Neomarxism already rearing its ugly head here; the feminist “elite” felt that most women were too immature or stupid to be allowed to take responsibility for themselves and so had to be lied to for the “greater good”. So the myth that “rape is a crime of violence, not of sex” was invented and aggressively promoted; once this slogan became ingrained in the public consciousness it even proved useful in deflecting the monstrous old rapist criminal defense that the victim actually wanted to be raped. If rape had nothing to do with sex, her actions or state of dress or whatever obviously had nothing to do with it.

A crime victim should not be blamed for attracting a criminal, but the notion that rape has nothing to do with lust is arrant nonsense. Most rapes are committed not by angry strangers with guns, but by horny acquaintances who are very much attracted to the victim (as revealed to the general public during the whole “date rape” brouhaha of the early 90s). 65% of rape victims are between 12 and 30 and 29% between 12-17; the rape rate for girls of 16-19 is four times that of women in general. Does that sound to you like something that has nothing to do with sexual attraction? The very idea is asinine. And then there’s the “elephant in the parlor” of penile erection; it’s necessary for penetration, yet as any heterosexual non-virgin could tell you it only occurs when a man is sexually excited. Feminists somehow managed the nigh-miraculous feat of getting nearly everyone in American society to drink the “rape has nothing to do with sex” kool-aid despite the fact that most of the people repeating this inane mantra are adults who know very well that rape cannot be accomplished unless the rapist is sexually aroused! Sometimes they’ll elaborate even further by saying “rape isn’t about sex, it’s about power and control” – despite the fact that BDSM exists precisely because power and control are inextricably bound up with sex!

But despite its absurdity, the “rape as asexual” dogma continues to be promulgated in the US by both government and neofeminists for the very good reason that if women realized that rape is largely caused by sexual frustration, they would collectively demand that prostitution be legalized and that would NOT satisfy the prohibitionist agenda. A number of cross-cultural studies such as this one have shown that in every culture where prostitution is legalized, the rape rate dramatically decreases; the author of the linked paper predicts a 25% decrease in rape in the US if prostitution were legalized. That’s right, the neofeminists and politicians know what’s best for women, so they allow an extra 25,000 of us to be raped every year rather than bury their opposition to a venerable institution which also provides income for many tens of thousands of other women. But I’m sure all the women who were raped by sex-mad men this year can rest assured in the knowledge that their torture was not in vain; after all, it was necessary to advance the holy neofeminist cause of preventing heterosexual males from having convenient access to sex....


Over in the Love and Dating Section, we've been discussing SCHRÖDINGER’S RAPIST: OR A GUY’S GUIDE TO APPROACHING STRANGE WOMEN WITHOUT BEING MACED

http://kateharding.net/2009/10/08/guest ... ing-maced/

Phaedra Starling wrote:
...Is preventing violent assault or murder part of your daily routine, rather than merely something you do when you venture into war zones? Because, for women, it is. When I go on a date, I always leave the man’s full name and contact information written next to my computer monitor. This is so the cops can find my body if I go missing. My best friend will call or e-mail me the next morning, and I must answer that call or e-mail before noon-ish, or she begins to worry. If she doesn’t hear from me by three or so, she’ll call the police. My activities after dark are curtailed. Unless I am in a densely-occupied, well-lit space, I won’t go out alone. Even then, I prefer to have a friend or two, or my dogs, with me. Do you follow rules like these?

So when you, a stranger, approach me, I have to ask myself: Will this man rape me?

Do you think I’m overreacting? One in every six American women will be sexually assaulted in her lifetime....

...When you approach me in public, you are Schrödinger’s Rapist. You may or may not be a man who would commit rape. I won’t know for sure unless you start sexually assaulting me. I can’t see inside your head, and I don’t know your intentions....


Which suggests that every man must be regarded as a potential rapist.

So, what say ye? Is male sexuality inherently predatory? Is it enough to lock up men who appear to be sexual predators? Should brothels be opened, so that sexually frustrated men have an outlet, and will be less likely to be out raping the general female population? Or, would it be enough for men to be encouraged to take up non-sexual hobbies as an outlet, such as hunting, stamp-collecting or needlepoint?

http://maggiemcneill.wordpress.com/2013 ... -not-dead/

Maggie McNeil wrote:
...I think the main difference is that in general, women are better at totally repressing their sexuality than men are. Most women can sublimate their libidos into other things, which they may become incredibly fanatical about; examples include their children or pets, art, social activities and religious or political crusades. Men may also sublimate in this way, but the sex drive won’t stay buried; they’ll still seek out porn, sex workers or even unwilling partners (as the numerous cases of boy-molesting priests amply demonstrate). Sexual repression in either men or women may lead to an obsession with suppressing sexual expression in others, and (especially in men) the psychological defense mechanism called “reaction formation” will often reveal the person’s particular kink. For example, there are many cases of pedophiles who campaign against “child porn”, closeted homosexuals who lead anti-gay crusades, compulsive clients who loudly support criminalization of sex work, etc. Full-blown sexual reaction formation is less common among women; this isn’t to say that women’s anti-sex campaigning isn’t due to sexual repression (I suspect it usually is), merely that it’s a lot harder to tell exactly what urges are being repressed by looking at the subject of their obsession. In other words, it’s unlikely that a woman involved in an anti-porn jihad is reacting to a repressed fascination with it; in fact, the trauma which produced the hate may have nothing at all to do with porn, which is merely an external symbol of male sexuality or “privilege”, essentially an effigy she can burn....



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27 Feb 2014, 5:05 pm

In the species of Homo Sapiens Sapiens a subcategory exists within the physiological sex which produces sperm. This subcategory has reduced size/activity in both (1) the ventral prefrontal cortex and (2) the amygdala. The currently available scientific evidence strongly suggests that this subcategory may be more inclined to have a predatory sexuality than the aforementioned physiological sex as a whole.
Or, in plain English: Psychopathy in men is a risk factor for committing rape.
Just sayin'.



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27 Feb 2014, 6:14 pm

'Predatory' sexuality may likely have been an evolutionary advantage at some point in our development as a species. We might all be the product of rape, if you look far enough into the past.

Of course, I'd like to think that we're enlightened creatures and that our evolution as a species has been positively shaped by being nice to one another... but then I watch the news, read a history book.

I would agree that all men are potential rapists, much like we're all potential killers. All potential thieves.
That said, I would also argue that all women have the same potential, just that men are better adapted to exploit it.

I would like to think, that as a civilised man, I can operate without these primitive compulsions affecting my behaviour. Those who cannot, should be dealt with appropriately.

... which begs the question, how best to deal with them?

No idea.

Though I think true gender equality and better sex education earlier on might lead to more mature and civilised attitudes towards sex and sexual relations.



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27 Feb 2014, 6:19 pm

Only in the minds of people who project their innermost thoughts onto others.



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27 Feb 2014, 6:22 pm

Pobbles wrote:

... which begs the question, how best to deal with them?

No idea.
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Here are a few.First you mace them,kick them in the side of the knee,then run.


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27 Feb 2014, 6:23 pm

What you do is kick them in the nut sack.



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27 Feb 2014, 6:30 pm

Well if it is, then I sure must not be human, because I am vary passive and never been abusive or violent in my life.
As for men being the aggressor, much of that has to do with culture, for instance its traditional for men to approach women while the other way around women are called sluts for it. so if men didn't be a bit aggressive they would never get dates. its just that its vary frustrating getting turned down and rejected hundred and hundreds of times before just one girl takes interest. I agree they should legalize prostitution, even though I would never use them (I don't believe in paying some woman for what I should be getting for free, after all, women don't have to pay for it to get it do they?, no equality here. that would be an insult to me to pay some woman to love on me.) but the frustrated men should have that option as an outlet.



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27 Feb 2014, 6:43 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What you do is kick them in the nut sack.

A woman that had been raised by the Marines said they can recover from that,kick them hard in the outside of the knee,take their knee cap out,they can't come after you too good on one leg.
I suppose it has to do with them being on drugs,I doubt a kick to the groin would phase a person on PCP,not even bullets stop them.If you take their leg out,they may crawl after you like the terminator,but you can easily outdistance them.


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27 Feb 2014, 6:45 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What you do is kick them in the nut sack.


What about after they've finished crying? Kick them again?
Lock them up? If so how long for, and how would you prepare them for future release?
Kill them?
Put them in hospital and treat it like an illness?

I agree with the sentiment though, rapists are repulsive, and an aberration in civilised society. I wouldn't have a problem if rapists were destroyed like unwanted dogs, but then, I'm not in charge... and I haven't had to destroy any unwanted dogs.



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27 Feb 2014, 6:48 pm

Misslizard wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What you do is kick them in the nut sack.

A woman that had been raised by the Marines said they can recover from that,kick them hard in the outside of the knee,take their knee cap out,they can't come after you too good on one leg.
I suppose it has to do with them being on drugs,I doubt a kick to the groin would phase a person on PCP,not even bullets stop them.If you take their leg out,they may crawl after you like the terminator,but you can easily outdistance them.


Would it not be better to attack the eyes or throat, after you've kicked them in the nuts? Purely from a self-defence perspective.



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27 Feb 2014, 8:10 pm

Actually macing is not very good advice because for one thing, most mace is very difficult to use. It comes in these little key chain cans which are hard to access and aim. So, unless you have a decent sized can with a really good spray, ditch the mace idea and go for a surprise, swift attack of some kind that will incapacitate.



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27 Feb 2014, 8:29 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Actually macing is not very good advice because for one thing, most mace is very difficult to use. It comes in these little key chain cans which are hard to access and aim. So, unless you have a decent sized can with a really good spray, ditch the mace idea and go for a surprise, swift attack of some kind that will incapacitate.


Actually, it's not that hard to use. May not be a good idea to put it on the keychain but keep it easily and quickly accessible. I have a small can Sabre brand pepper spray that's probably 4 years old and still shoots a stream of that s**t about 8 feet or more and the contents are still very potent. I was going to replace it but just to check it out I shot a quick spurt of it at my garage door from 8-10 ft. As I stepped up to the garage door to where it hit just the vapor in the air was noxious.


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27 Feb 2014, 8:37 pm

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ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Actually macing is not very good advice because for one thing, most mace is very difficult to use. It comes in these little key chain cans which are hard to access and aim. So, unless you have a decent sized can with a really good spray, ditch the mace idea and go for a surprise, swift attack of some kind that will incapacitate.


Actually, it's not that hard to use. May not be a good idea to put it on the keychain but keep it easily and quickly accessible. I have a small can Sabre brand pepper spray that's probably 4 years old and still shoots a stream of that sh** about 8 feet or more and the contents are still very potent. I was going to replace it but just to check it out I shot a quick spurt of it at my garage door from 8-10 ft. As I stepped up to the garage door to where it hit just the vapor in the air was noxious.

Nah I'd rather have a big can with a skunk-butt sprayer. I just don't feel comfortable with a little keychain can. I need to find a bigger can. Not sure if they have bigger sizes at Academy.



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27 Feb 2014, 8:57 pm

Pobbles wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
What you do is kick them in the nut sack.

A woman that had been raised by the Marines said they can recover from that,kick them hard in the outside of the knee,take their knee cap out,they can't come after you too good on one leg.
I suppose it has to do with them being on drugs,I doubt a kick to the groin would phase a person on PCP,not even bullets stop them.If you take their leg out,they may crawl after you like the terminator,but you can easily outdistance them.


Would it not be better to attack the eyes or throat, after you've kicked them in the nuts? Purely from a self-defence perspective.

Spray,than kneecap,run.The spray should take care of the eyes and throat.
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27 Feb 2014, 9:00 pm

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...Which suggests that every man must be regarded as a potential rapist.

So, what say ye? Is male sexuality inherently predatory? Is it enough to lock up men who appear to be sexual predators? Should brothels be opened, so that sexually frustrated men have an outlet, and will be less likely to be out raping the general female population? Or, would it be enough for men to be encouraged to take up non-sexual hobbies as an outlet, such as hunting, stamp-collecting or needlepoint?

That a man must be regarded as a rapist does not mean that every man is a rapist.


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27 Feb 2014, 10:33 pm

OP: no. But we can't tell the difference until the black box is opened. Capisce?