Is Being Gay a 'Choice'?

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I guess it could appear that way to you if you are asexual or don't experience sexual attraction. Maybe it is similar for people who are bisexual and are equally or moderately attracted to both sexes. I'd say that there is no realistic choice in the matter if one is strongly straight or strongly gay. As a straight man I can't see anything remotely attractive about men, but women, especially younger women... woohoo. They get my brain cells fizzing.

No, it's not a choice, you are what you are.

Why would anyone chose to be gay? I mean, I'm sure some people would, but not 10% of the population, especially with all the hate it gets from society. I sure didn't chose to be straight.

Well, that explains a few things.

No...just no they did not choose to be gay. Abrihamic religious followers think otherwise and that it is a sin and bad bad bad evil and that mumbo jumbo.

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Being attracted to people of the same gender is not a choice any more than being attracted to people of opposite gender. The choice is in whether or not to act on those desires. Just like you choose to approach a woman at a bar, gay people choose to act on their feelings. And that's okay. But it is a choice.

I don't believe it's a choice. But in the past, and among individuals even today, because of social and family pressures gays have had to hide who they were, and live lives of heterosexuality, even though it's not their nature.

I'm male.
I'm sexually attracted to women.
I'm not sexualy attracted to men.
I was born that way.

There have been times in my life when I've wished I was also sexually attracted to men.
I'm not, nor could I choose to be no matter how badly I wanted to be.

The way I figure it, gay, trans, bi, cis, straight, orientation in general isn't something we get to choose, it's something we're each born with and have to discover for ourselves.
Otherwise I'd imagine a lot of us would choose to be bi simply for the wider variety of potential partners.
We can't choose it though, only those lucky enough to be born that way get to be that way (greedy bastards ;b).

If straight people can't choose to be attracted to their gender, why would anyone think that gay people can choose to be attracted to the opposite gender or not be attracted to their own gender for that matter?

Logic shows us that the idea of sexual attraction as a choice is ridiculous and untenable on its face.
End of story.

There is a new idea in genetics that gay men carry a gene that, when present in females, results in a strong sexual attraction to men. This would explain it from a natural selection point of view. That particular gene would survive in the gene pool because it is of huge advantage in women. The side effect of it being in the gene pool is that if men inherit it, they become gay. The reverse would be true for lesbians.

I can't choose to be gay. My sister is gay. When she first came out, I tried to force myself to look at other men in a sexual manner just to see. I couldn't do it. It repulses me. So no, I can't choose to be gay.

Irrelevent to WHAT????????????

The question is "is being homosexual a choice?".

You just strongly agreed that it is NOT a choice- that your born that way.

End of story.

Hows is that excess verbiage about "determinism" being "irrelevent" RELEVENT to the question?

I was stating that the question itself was irrelevant (to anything really, namely as it is applied to the apologetics of homosexuality).



Now this I didn't state, nor do I believe it, though I suspect that's partially true - nevertheless, it can still be taught, otherwise encouraged (or vice versa, suppressed) or even forced, and the ways in which you could develop seemingly suddenly appear highly complex and not limited to any single rule. Doesn't seem right to simplify it like that.

There is no need for an apologetics of homosexuality. It's quite fine and dandy.

No need to invent unnecessary invalid and incorrect/questionable arguments in its defence then?

This is starting to seem like harassment of Valk. He doesn't want to say it, and you should stop trying to make him say it. Not saying it is at least a start.

At the same time, let's stop beating around the bush and run the numbers, clicky