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17 Apr 2014, 1:42 pm

I know we are classified as that from a scientific point of view, but what about from a philosophical point of view?



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17 Apr 2014, 1:45 pm

Yes, pretty much. Observe people in any social setting when new people are meeting and they, in effect, do the butt sniffing drill that dogs are known for. The difference is that people use words and body angular, not their noses.
There is also that undeniable prey drive that people have.


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17 Apr 2014, 1:45 pm

Yes. Animals that have evolved/developed sophisticated languages and using those languages we've developed philosophy, mathematics and a myriad of other types of analysis and knowledge.


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17 Apr 2014, 1:46 pm

We are primates regardless what religions say!
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17 Apr 2014, 1:47 pm

Depends. I think all animals capable of at least a degree of abstract reasoning have an "us and them" mentality. I think a chimpanzee sees other chimpanzees as "us", whereas other animals (including humans and gorillas) as a part of "them" (other animals).


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17 Apr 2014, 1:52 pm

Yes.


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17 Apr 2014, 2:19 pm

All the ones I have met, Yes.



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17 Apr 2014, 3:37 pm

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17 Apr 2014, 3:50 pm

^ Is that a "selfie" Raptor? :P


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17 Apr 2014, 3:54 pm

^^^^^^^Well, that's going to lead to some 'confusing' nightmares. 8O


Otherwise, well, yes. It's very hard to get the language right in cases like this. When we consider ourselves as animals, do we think of ourselves differently than when we consider ourselves humans? That is, though humans are animals, is there - outside of any religious idea and accepting we are animals - a different tone to thinking of ourselves as humans? I get the feeling there is, and I find that interesting.


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17 Apr 2014, 4:02 pm

Housedays wrote:
I know we are classified as that from a scientific point of view, but what about from a philosophical point of view?


Yes, we are animals.

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17 Apr 2014, 4:28 pm

TallyMan wrote:
^ Is that a "selfie" Raptor? :P


No, my hair is shorter and light brown.


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17 Apr 2014, 6:37 pm

Human beings are mammals in every sence of the word.
One of the many problems we have is that we think we are better than other species which is pretty delusional if you ask me.
We overestimate our own abilities and we underestimate all the other species we share the earth with.



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17 Apr 2014, 7:26 pm

TallyMan wrote:
Yes. Animals that have evolved/developed sophisticated languages and using those languages we've developed philosophy, mathematics and a myriad of other types of analysis and knowledge.


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This pretty much sums it up


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17 Apr 2014, 7:29 pm

Housedays wrote:
I know we are classified as that from a scientific point of view, but what about from a philosophical point of view?

Humans are not animals.
Animals are animals.
Humans are humans.



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17 Apr 2014, 7:44 pm

ooOoOoOAnaOoOoOoo wrote:
Humans are not animals.
Animals are animals.
Humans are humans.


True, never seen birds fight over nesting materials :roll:

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