I hate America

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I am glad I don't live in the U.S.

Unfortunatly, a Dane residing in the U.S. has been imprisoned for allegations of child abuse.

Evidence? None. Only allegations from one woman, and the kindergarden he worked at has denied that he had abused anyone.

Furthermore, the American media has portrayed the victim (yes I am refering to the Dane as a victim in this case), with full name and photo.

In Denmark, this is illegal to post the name and photos of people being accused for a crime, because in Denmark,
anyone is innocent until proven otherwise, but it is not so in the U.S. because of you god damn f* "freedom of speech".

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc ... -1.1855612

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ldren.html

How many Americans and foreigners residing in America, have to face being wrongly accused for henious crimes they had not committed?
Oh, well, I know: None.
You execute them instead.

Btw. this story is all over in the Danish media.
It says that your prosecutors are ELECTED by democratical elections.

That would never happen in Denmark either, because in Denmark, we seperate Government from the Judicial institutions.

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Quoted: "A judge, partly based on a confession, said there was probable cause to believe Thomsen committed the crimes".

The guy confessed ?

He did not confess.
The prosecutor says so, but he was forced to "confess"
http://nyhederne.tv2.dk/2014-07-07-advo ... %C3%A5else

(article in Danish).

Translation:

This case reminds me of the witch trials in 17th century Europe.

Unfortunately this seems to be fairly standard operating procedure for many police departments in modern America, especially the NYPD.

According to Danish media, the man was also denied a lawyer when being arrested and interrogated.

And you Americans speak of a "fair trial" and "human rights" and even go so far as to bomb dictatorships, when America acts just like a Cuban dictatorship itself?

how is that possible, to trap you into believing you're guilty if you know you're not? i mean, if i know i didn't do something and a cop tells me "hey i can prove you committed a crime, i have video of you doing it" i would say "show me this video" because i would know he was full of s**t. i would know he couldn't possibly have a video of me committing a crime i didn't commit, so there would be no reason for that "tactic" to work. it only works if the guy did it and believes someone could have actually caught him doing it on tape--because he did it.

The shock of a wrong and henious accuse can make people say something in such a way that it CAN be INTERPRETED as if he did it, whilst he didn't, but if you want to believe he did it, anything that can be interpreted, anything that is not a clear "yes" or "no" and given a paper with no clear question "did you do it or did you not do it?" with a simple answer "yes" or "no", is a brutal confession method and is keen to lead to false confessions.

Especially if you are not familiar with the police brutality in New York. There's police brutality in Denmark too, but not to this extend.

You have to understand, this man accused of a crime in U.S. is a citizen of a country where you can ask the police patrol the way to the nearest grocery store.

If you dare to ask a simple innocent question to U.S. police you can face brutal arrest.

The state prosecutors also display how many people they accuse of henious crimes, to the public, even though a lot of them are going to get free.

I believe his alleged "confession" is a misunderstanding, based on cultural differences in language and other cultural ways of verbal expression.

<----------- Good for you.



I think you mean "detained pending trial".



And evidence doesn't need to be there to charge someone with a crime - there just has to be probable cause. If, as you say, there is no evidence - then he will be found innocent by a jury.



Sorry, but being presumed innocent has nothing to do with being having your identity protected. If there is cause to believe that the jury may be unduly influenced by the media coverage of the case, there are mechanisms with which to correct that. Namely media gag orders and jury separation, as well as the void dire process itself.



Excuse me, but if you're going to talk smack about the organization of the American government, you should at least make sure you're right first.

Prosecutors at the local level fall under the office of the district attorney. That office is a part of the judicial branch of government, in that it is responsible for prosecuting alleged criminals. It is also a part of the executive branch of government, in that they are responsible for defending the locality from any and all civil lawsuits. The actual district attorney is an elected post, and then the prosecutors that work underneath the district attorney in the district attorney's office are hired by the elected official.

Similarly, at the state level, there is a single person (usually the state's Attorney General, but some states have different names for it) who is elected as the head of the state's attorney's office and in that capacity is in charge of prosecuting criminals, and is similarly responsible for representing the state in legal matters.

So yes, our prosecutors are elected *and* they're part of the judicial branch of government. Deal with it.

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Oh, please. People ask simple innocent questions to police here *all the time*.

Deprive a person of food, sleep, and water for 30 hours with them yelling at you demanding you confess and most people will want to say anything.

There are also the more subtle nuances, where officers, looking for a quick end to the case, will coax the person into talking, and will get that person to tell contradictions, things that when taken out of context look bad for the person, etc.

DON'T TASE ME BRO!

This is America. He can always sue someone and get rich just like everyone else here does.

And I'm sure the Danish media are NEVER biased, and never sensationalize a story. Please.

Nobody made him come live in America. He chose to be here, and had every opportunity to educate himself about our laws and customs. When in Rome...

If the Danish media is anything like the Norwegian media, it's extremely biased.