Zionism is no different than Nazism

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The land belongs to the Jews, try and take it back with force as you will but you will die trying or barely escape death with a grudge and wanting to suicide bomb only to fail at your martyrdom attempt. Also the USA will back up Israel 100% along with the UK![youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-evIyrrjTTY[/youtube]

The Nazi's plans weren't to gas the Jews in the beginning either, they just wanted them removed from the "German homeland". They weighed the options of resettling them all to Poland, British Palestine, even Madagascar. There a lot of scary parallels if one looks, I'm not saying that Israel is going to set up death camps but I don't think these Israelis want peace as much as they want total victory.

Total victory is probably the only thing that could bring peace, and I am pretty sure the tent encampments are more like refugee camps than extermination camps. I think it is a nice gesture of Israel to offer this kind of humanitarian aid to people who have voted for a terrorist organization hell bent on killing all jews. They don't have to move anyone out of harms way if they are planning on replacing Gaza with a giant parking lot.

Er...rather the long way round, no? They just gave it away not too long ago.
And no, they're not looking to "kill them all". Feiglin is looking to kill Hamas, which I think not unreasonable, given the "death to Israel" and the rockets and tunnels etc. Most Palestinians (I hope) are not Hamas.

Obviously you're not very steeped in history -- not even blanched -- if you're equating moving people out of a battlefield with extermination camps. (And again, long way around. If the aim was to kill them all, there wouldn't be much call for moving defenseless civilians away from the battlefield.)

They will help rebuild it afterwards and resettle Palestinians there, but you can bet they'll require background checks and will be quite aggressive about ensuring that new terrorist nodes don't form. After this is repeated a dozen times or so, they'll go back to an international body and say look, we tried the experiment you wanted, and we tried it long after we told you it wasn't going to work, just to make you happy. Would you like to come in and establish a permanent international presence in Gaza, and help calm this thing? And then the international body will, and they'll sit around twiddling thumbs while terrorist stuff goes on, and the Israelis will say, "f*****g amateurs" and go take care of it and scare the international force, ob-la-di. Meanwhile the international force will be, like the Brits, heartily sick of both sides, but recognize that if they had to choose one, jesus f**k it'd be the Israelis. And the entire Arab world will shrug and not even bother saying, "now you know."

Oh, and yeah, not just total victory, but a reasonably nice and sane life once the war's over and Israel and the US are helping to rebuild. Because eventually when these jihadist idiots come back around, if things are being sane and decent at long last, the population will tell them to f**k off. And it'll last a while.

ffs. History, read some.

1. The Jews, remarkably enough, were not vowing death to the Kaiser and bombing Germans.
2. The Israelis are not laboring under hundreds of years' worth of virulent anti-Palestinian fairy tales at the heart of their own religious stories.

The Israelis want, reasonably enough, for the guerrillas next door to stop bombing them day/night. Which, regardless of conditions, they've refused to do. Now they're going to go take care of the problem. Sane and neighborly Palestinians want to move back and live there afterwards? Groovy.

Israel gets away with murder. It bombs innocents, makes people move out of their houses to make Israeli only settlements and antagonised it's neighbours and it gets away with it every time while if Jordan did this then we'll be talking about invading them and putting the leader on trail for Crimes against humanity.

This sort of thing has been happening in the Muslim world for thirteen centuries since the battle of Karbula. They are quite happy killing themselves, it is just when that vitriol spill overs, and they bite of more than they can chew it is suddenly an issue.

Yes it is not nice their situation but they have to begin to take some responsibility for the situation they are in. They had an opportunity to build a nation in 1947.

Made my morning.

I'm reflecting on the irony of your posting this under that particular handle.

In fact, not only did Jews NOT vow death to the Kaiser and bomb Germany, but German Jews were just as nationalistic as were their German Christian counterparts. That, and many Jewish Americans during the First World War were German Jews who saw themselves as German Americans, and so had some sentimental attachment to the old country, while they were very uncomfortable having the US allied to Czarist Russia, the most violently Antisemitic country of their day.

Collateral damage is unavoidable, and Israel is trying to minimize it, but Hamas is following a different strategy. So, if you want to charge anyone for crimes against humanity you should probably point in a completely different direction. A 180° adjustment seems about right.

Justice Minister Tzipi Livni presented on Thursday a document in Arabic which explicitly instructs terrorists to deliberately fire at the Israeli army from within places where civilians are present, and thus harm its image. Livni met with the President of the International Committee of the Red Cross and presented him with the guidelines, found in the pocket of a terrorist in Saja'iyya. The page includes clear-cut instructions on how on the proper conduct during battle in order to cause maximum damage to Israel's public image, while using innocent civilians as human shields. Among the recommendations included in the manual, which admits that "the IDF limits the use of ammunition to avoid harming the civilian population," Hamas officials wrote: "The IDF limits the use of fire against civilian population centers ? we recommend to attack from there; shooting from within homes of civilians is in Hamas' interest because it intensifies the hatred against the Israeli army."

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 22,00.html

Again, this is a very wrong representation and poor comparison to the Israel case, yes it's true that new conquerors wipe out former rulers, but not totally exterminating the whole population! No matter how big the massacres were, when the line of Ptolemy's ruled as pharaohs in Egypt it's not like they have replaced the Egyptians with Greeks, it was the rules who have cope with the ancient egyptians culture to rule them.

Canaanites were not wiped up by Hebrews, they were just culturally assimilated by them and mixed with them, nor were wiped by Ottomans, they were just administratively assimilated (and less culturally) and mixed with few, nor were wiped by the Arabs, they were just culturally assimilated and mixed with them too, and so on...

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People who want to exterminate do not hand over large chunks of land next door and baby industries to the people they purportedly want to wipe out. It just does not happen. Please find one incidence of it in the history of mankind.

I was just replying to the video's logic, it's all justification to take Palestinian land; "Hey, it's ok if we Zionists took this land by force, we are not different than the Romans/Greeks/Crusaders/Arabs/Ottomans who took this land before us!" - This is a wrong compassion and I've explained why above.

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And tarantella, you are so naive btw, Israel was forced to hand over whatever; Israel has masters and big players to appease too - it's not Israel's idea, it's not because you Zionist are oh-...such tender nice guys, lol we've told you that a million of times.