Smart fictional characters specialized in logic

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I'm looking for any media that is available in English that contains (as a primary or secondary character) a character that is said to be a genius or very smart while it is not a TV genius.
In this case, the "genius" part I'm after is logical reasoning while having well defined faults (even if they are not directly pointed out anywhere).

In other words, it would be more as someone who could exist, according to human limitations, thinks in logically correct ways and has faults well inside most autist people has.

I read some pages of this:
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Nearly most characters or stories don't fit this. Here's some examples of what does not fit and why (please note that this is my view. It can easily be wrong):
Sherlock Holmes: Although his reasoning works well, he does not seem to have any real fault (even worse in the movies!). He does have some faults but they are not that well believable as it seems like some knowledge comes and goes (he uses it to solve a case but he cannot respond before Watson (in chronological order, sometimes it's the reverse, though)).
Total Drama series: (clarification: I never told these characters are boring or bad. I just mean that they don't fit in this search )
--Noah: He's just a jerk.
--Silent B: He's stupidity smart (I gave up after the candidate's 30s video)
House: Smart, check; excentric, check; Story that keeps on cheating itself, unfortunately, check. For this one, my issue is the serie's stories. I saw some on TV and I got skeptical with how some things went on. Missing or misleading information, some sci-fi on something that is supposed to be real world... Same applies to CSI although in CSI it is way worse. I dropped it.

(please note that this list is not exhaustive and, as I mentioned, I didn't read all pages)

Also from the same topic. There's a couple characters that nearly fits this:
Ferb: nothing much to add to what is said in the topic. Still, although acceptable, he's not the actual kind I'm looking for because he hip-hops from being very smart to being TVgenius. He never gets to the actual level of a "full brown tv genius" but I still wonder sometimes, how his mind works.
Sheldon Cooper: I don't get that guy sometimes. Although he always (or nearly always) acts like a very smart autist, he has some inconsistencies on what is the full list of his faults. For some less recurring stuff, sometimes he seems to have a specific fault that is taken back later or vice-versa. Not to mention that he is over the top arrogant, selfish, etc... And I still wonder about his IQ as he seems to me only really smart on 1 or 2 realms of intelligence while he does not even bother to put it to other things. His logical thinking is also weird as it works only sometimes. He's a fun character though, I like him but he displays partly an example of what I'm not after.

Extra note:
I read some stuff on Spok but I don't know. I'll not comment on what I don't know (I still have to see that movie some time...)

Here's the only character I found so far that doubtfully fits:
Erin from Kemono no Souja:
- Quite bright child (can connect information quite well)
- Quite curious of everything around her!
- Low attention span to what she does not like.
- Fascinated to only towards two subjects (which are closely related) and using most of the time for them.
- Good scientific method thinking. (includes not feeling constraint to rules)
- Pays good attention towards details.

Main issues:
- Has no real social ineptitudes.
- She understands body language too well.
- She has lots of facial expressions.


And the character that fits best into my description (out of the ones I ever got top meet):
Kazami Kazuki from Grisaia no Kajitsu (グリザイアの果実 -LE FRUIT DE LA GRISAIA-)

-> Superior brightness in Logical deduction.
-> Does not know how to make a "friendly smile".
-> Stoic (she only has 4 externalized states)
-> Selfless.
-> Photographic memory.
-> Likes teaching to whoever wants to learn.
-> Has no patience towards selfish people.
-> Cannot act without planning.
-> Thinking is a sacred process that requires some time and must not be disturbed.
-> Only logic is understandable. Anything else is puzzling or boring.
-> Has behavior "triggers" for some actions. (when X kind of thing happens, she always does Y, unless she learns that Y does not work)
-> Changes to behavior work under logically correct circumstances.
-> Inapt towards "girl talk". Although not directly said, I'd say she finds it boring (so, not fully sure).
-> Takes some things too literally.
-> Everything is analyzed into detail.
-> All jokes are based on the same principle (and usually are quite bad)
-> Really, really strict sleeping hours. She passes out if she does not respect them.
-> Her speech is too technical unless you ask her to try to try to make it more understandable.

There are more traits I found that only makes her even more fitting but I find them spoil-ish to whom didn't read the story yet and I think that this is enough for you to get the idea.
Also, I think her character page in vndb is wrong, specially the "arrogant" part but I think you, as being part of the wrong planet, can understand why she can be seen as arrogant by some people (I confess; it took me an explanation to get it).

I could write some examples for her traits here but there's no spoiler tag and I don't want to spoil the story to whoever got interested.

Although I only mentioned Japanese animation characters as fitting, it is not limited to those. It just happens to be those who actually got to fit in.

No urls were posted because the rules do not permit. So you will have to search for the things yourself, unfortunately.

Last edited by brunoais on 31 Jul 2014, 3:36 am, edited 2 times in total.

Spock.

Are you sure you read my post -_-?

No, I just read the title and skimmed the text. Spock seemed to be missing, so ... he's not invited?

Just use the browser's integrated search feature and search for "Spock"

Last edited by brunoais on 30 Jul 2014, 2:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I think Spock is the one you're looking for.

Oh! Ups. A typo. Thanks for the warning. Fixed.

I'm suprised to see mentioned Kemono no Souja Erin, as it's a greatly underated anime. Personally I never seen her as asperger, but rather as a intellectually gifted individual. (By the way never watch How the train your dragon while your watching Kemono no Souja Erin, you'll be desapointed by How to train your dragon. )

Spencer Reid

Too late .
I watched it about 1/2 year ago and I saw all kemono no souja last month. I saw how to train your dragon as... A comedy. It's fiction so... All animals are dogs...
And... when all animals are dogs... Just stay with what's good. In that movie's case, the comedy is quite good ^^.

Anyway, Kemono no Souja Erin is way better with the animals that were invented. They feel way more real and, unlike the "trained" dragon form above, they feel like, if evolution had taken that path, they could really exist! Both ooju and touda.


Hum... Long series... Any recommended episodes or something like that before I throw myself in?

the beginning series 1,2, I feel is the best one in terms of spencer Reid, the current series have changed him too much I think

as for the faults in Spencer Reid,

while he is a genius, has an eidetic memory and can read extremely fast

He shows moderate social deficits (more in the early series)

seems to act without thinking too much, puts himself in danger

he becomes an addict (in later series)

he often goes on long tangents, spouting out facts that he has read, sometimes in the right context but he gets side tract and does not realise people don't want to hear it ( I find it to be really endearing)

Nice. Thanks.

What about Adam and Eve? Would "original sin" have been picked up by an NT?

Lieutenant Kanya from the Windup Girl might qualify. Even better would be Lieutenant Data from Trek.

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While we've had a couple different Star Trek characters mentioned, I'd like to put forth Odo from Deep Space Nine. He's not a genius, but he is smart as well as very rigid and logical, and has massive faults in his social skills. Might be worth checking out for you.

If video games are acceptable, then I'd suggest playing the Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney and Miles Edgeworth: Investigations games to meet Edgeworth. Again, he's very smart, but not a genius; his in-universe special ability is logic; he has trouble talking to other people but is still an excellent lawyer; and is comically uptight. The games are pretty light-hearted, so even Edgeworth gets a few silly moments.