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10 Aug 2014, 9:57 pm

One of the big advantages of facebook is that you can communicate with people you haven't seen or talked to in years. It's also interesting to find out what they look like after not seeing them for 20 years or so. I consider that to be a pro because it is much easier for me to hide myself behind online chatter on facebook instead of face to face contact with other people. Other than that I see facebook as a delusion in which people pretend that their life is a wonderful feast, filled with interesting experiences, wonderful holidays and overall manic happiness. It didn't take long before I discoverd that you are not supposed to tell people how you are really doing because they quickly stop responding to your facebook messages if you do have the honesty to do just that. You have to maintain the illusion that you are doing well and that there are no downsides to your existence,which means that the whole phenomenon is pretty superficial if you ask me. Another aspect of facebook that is the most negative one in my opinion is the fact that nasty individuals of all ages can use it to bully or con others. I almost forgot to mention the topic of facebook friends. Needless to say that facebook friends are not real friends ofcourse. We all know that don't we?

Internet in general has many positive aspects. You can get information on just about anything on the web, allthough a great deal of that information is actually incorrect, incomplete or sometimes even insane. I like to use the internet to do a lot of online shopping but that is my personal choice and I don't necessarily recommend that kind of behaviour to others. What scares me is that people take the internet much too seriously which makes them too vulnerable to all kinds of BS. That includes me ofcourse because I spend a lot of time on the web. I think it is safe to say that the internet can not be compared to the reality of day to day life, nor is it a subsitute for life in the real world.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention an important fact. I haven't got anything against happiness and positivity, on the contrary, as long as it's real instead of fake or obligatory. I am aware of the fact that one can't show ones true feelings all the time but I fail to see the point of keeping up appearances on social media.



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10 Aug 2014, 10:54 pm

I would like to drop the subject of facebook for a minute or two and give an example of the correct and incorrect information I found on the internet about a single subject. I have heard the term illuminati many times but I never really knew who or what illuminati actually are. Since that started to bother me all of a sudden I decided to Google it. Google came up with some plausible and some totally crazy theories and explanations. Here are a a few examples.

- Illuminati were and are several secret societies that appeared and disappeared after a certain amount of time. An explanation that I consider to be more or less correct.

- Illuminati is a secret societie that plans to take total control of the world in order to ultimately do what it wants . That already comes across as more paranoid than the previous explanation.

- Illuminati are a group of zionists and/or jewish bankers who want total control of the world. Hitler has nothing on the lunatic that came up with that theory. I actually think that the person who brought that story into the world should be prosecuted and locked up in a special facility for the criminally insane.

- Illuminati are people whose forefathers managed to produce offspring with reptilian aliens. They are striving to keep the "reptilian line" intact by breeding with people who have some of that same reptilian DNA. According to the lost and crazy soul who came up with that idea most world leaders, like for instance kings and queens of the past and the present, have reptilian DNA. It goes without saying that these reptilian human beings cause all kinds of harm like wars, conflicts and the likes the in order to take over this planet and rule it. Well, it could be true. I might have some of that wondrous reptilian DNA myself. Who knows? On the other hand, has anyone here ever heard of a human being having sex with a lizard and even conceive as a result of it? Uhmmm...... :roll: The possibility that these beings created reptillian/human hybrids by concocting some sort of human/lizard DNA potion is very unlikely as well.
Eventhough I am a sceptic and not religious I do believe there is more between heaven and earth than we people are aware of or able to perceive, but to put the blame of all the wrongs in the world on reptilian aliens instead of our own way of thinking and our own behaviour is insane and irresponsible. You can't change anything unless you see yourself for what you really are and that inludes the good and the bad. In other words, people who want to change the world should begin with taking a good and hard look at themselves.

The above is just an example of the different types of information one can get on the internet by the way. Need I say more.



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11 Aug 2014, 12:55 pm

Whilst searching for the illuminati I stumbled on a David Icke speech on Youtube that lasted for two hours. He is one of those people who think that illuminati are human beings with reptilian DNA who serve their entirely reptillian overlords. I don't even have the words to describe how utterly crazy that notion is. I've never heard anything like it. I watched that Youtube video this morning and I haven been laughing for the entire day now.



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11 Aug 2014, 1:21 pm

Do you get any enjoyment, or benefit, out of FB at all?

Icke talks about some legitimate issues like state indoctrination, and discredits them by reiterating unsubstantiated, and ridiculous sounding, conspiracy theories. I don't think he's helpful.

This is an excellent documentary about Icke. It's expanded upon in Jon Ronson's book, Them: Adventures With Extremists.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVh-t4DokdQ[/youtube]



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11 Aug 2014, 2:42 pm

I do get some form of enjoyment out of facebook.
I like to communicate with people I haven't seen in a long time and I also enjoy looking at the pictures of others. A harmless and innocent form of voyeurism. That doesn't mean that facebook is not superficial though.



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11 Aug 2014, 3:28 pm

Internet seems like a school reunion in a library. It is all about the good choices people made, how fantastic their job is and people hang around the coffee bar making up the most ridiculous stories. The magazines in the coffee bar are being read, but the interesting books in the rest of the library are not.



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11 Aug 2014, 4:36 pm

I don't know any of the people I'm "friends" with on Facebook offline, and I only really like to communicate through my cartoons, my stories, and screenshots of my Sims Games.



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11 Aug 2014, 10:33 pm

Stannis wrote:
Do you get any enjoyment, or benefit, out of FB at all?

Icke talks about some legitimate issues like state indoctrination, and discredits them by reiterating unsubstantiated, and ridiculous sounding, conspiracy theories. I don't think he's helpful.

This is an excellent documentary about Icke. It's expanded upon in Jon Ronson's book, Them: Adventures With Extremists.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVh-t4DokdQ[/youtube]



This is so bizarre that I am beginning to wonder if the persona of David Icke really exists or that the whole thing is one big hoax alltogether, but now I am probably getting paranoid myself. He is mentioned in a course that I am doing at the moment though.



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12 Aug 2014, 12:54 pm

Atom1966 wrote:
Stannis wrote:
Do you get any enjoyment, or benefit, out of FB at all?

Icke talks about some legitimate issues like state indoctrination, and discredits them by reiterating unsubstantiated, and ridiculous sounding, conspiracy theories. I don't think he's helpful.

This is an excellent documentary about Icke. It's expanded upon in Jon Ronson's book, Them: Adventures With Extremists.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVh-t4DokdQ[/youtube]



This is so bizarre that I am beginning to wonder if the persona of David Icke really exists or that the whole thing is one big hoax alltogether, but now I am probably getting paranoid myself. He is mentioned in a course that I am doing at the moment though.


David Icke #2- "Ex" Mi5 whistleblower, David Shayler.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCiZe45d-rI[/youtube]

These guys discredit all of the information they come out with by association, while neutralising people with social justice instincts who are naive enough to look to them for answers. I don't have the information to judge whether that is their intent or merely their effect. I can go round and round forever, and not come to any conclusions in trying to figure out exactly who is trying to discredit what, or if these guys are just cynical opportunists :lol:



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13 Aug 2014, 12:25 pm

It depends on who you share what with. I removed a family member for trying to draw me into arguments between him and his wife. I feel like I have to be mediator in person and that's tiring enough. I don't want to be mediator at a distance of 50 miles away too. If I want to share things with this person I just email them over facebook instead. It's better that way. More personal.

However, if you are feeling a bit down you can mention it and only allow certain people, real friends, to see it and they may respond. I find my real friends do respond to real things. It's like a group text.

In general facebook is a bit superficial really. It's just a bit of fun. I like it to keep in touch with family.

The try hards who take it seriously and who are deperate to impress others with their antics are a bit sad really.



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13 Aug 2014, 12:53 pm

for me, before the internet, there was practically nothing. I go onto bacefook just for the adult aspie group [all migrants from WP] where I can communicate with others like myself.