An Independent Scotland ?

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Actual votes never match polling exactly because they don't account for those voters who truly believe and desire to vote, and then, find that they can't or don't want to stand in the lines, miss their TV shows or ignore going to the pub instead.

When exactly will we know the results by? I don't pay much attention to the news but this fascinates me, seeing as Scotland has been a part of the UK forever from what I've see.

Phew!! !!

Scotland voted to stay in the United Kingdom after voters rejected independence by a margin of 55% to 45%. The pro-independence campaign claimed 1,617,989 votes but was defeated by the ?Better Together? campaign which obtained 2,001,926 votes. The turnout was 84.5%.

However, almost as soon as the vote count began last night, some were pointing to alleged examples of tampering.

In the first example, bundles of referendum papers are seen on top of a table designated for ?No? votes and yet when zoomed in, the top paper on two of the bundles clearly shows an X marked in the box for ?Yes?.

The second clip shows a man at a desk in a polling station writing on a piece of paper. Some claim this proves he is filling in referendum cards, although he could just as easily be tallying up votes.

The third example is a little harder to explain. It shows a woman at a polling station counting votes. She takes one paper from the ?No? pile and places it in the ?Yes? pile before taking at least two cards from the ?Yes? pile and placing them in the ?No? pile.

Police in Glasgow are also investigating at least ten cases of vote fraud where people turned up to vote only to find that their names had already been crossed off the list, suggesting other people were voting multiple times.

'Last night police officers were present at the count to remove the ballot papers and keep them as evidence,? reports the Daily Mail. ?The papers were from 10 different boxes across Glasgow, and not concentrated in one area.'

While these videos by no means offer concrete evidence of vote fraud, they do feed into the sentiment that the British establishment was so panicked by the prospect of a ?Yes? vote, a likelihood which grew which after polls narrowed earlier this month, that it would go to any lengths to prevent Scotland from gaining independence.

Russian observers think that Westminster put significant pressure on Scots during the independence referendum on September 18.

'According to what our observers at the polling offices tell us, there were more Yes votes during the vote count. Scotland found itself under immense pressure? Those on the UK side campaigning for a No vote resorted to every violation imaginable,' Georgy Fyodorov, the head of the Association for the Protection of Electoral Rights 'Civil control,' told RIA Novosti on Friday....

Why are you quoting these "reliable" sources?

Is there anything to learn from the people who think the US government is a satanic conspiracy (infowars) or the people who brought electoral reform to Grozny with bombs and tanks (Putin)???

Would someone here just give me a copy of the Wrong Planet Rulebook of Acceptable Beliefs, Thoughts and Opinion? Because I am at a loss to determine what I may or may not write here without being showered with fallacious criticisms. Apparently, free speech and diversity of opinion means nothing here. When I was a kid, the phrase of Evelyn Beatrice Hall that "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" meant something in polite, intellectual society.

"Sieg Heil!" in any case.

No one told you not to quote Alex Jones. Your response is certainly in line with his way of thinking.

I'll just get in my black helicopter now and fly back to report to my reptilian alien satanic overlords at the NSA section of the trilateral commission and let them know that my bid for mind control through wrong planet has failed...

In all seriousness, thought, looking to Putin's Russia or Alex Jones for information about Scotland seems peculiar. Do you give credence to their views on this?