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19 Oct 2014, 5:49 am

I never knew so much stuff I thought was common in humans was asociated with having Asd until I come on to wrong planet. I dont come on here often but when I do I see threads asking things like if AS people come more addicted to nicotine or is it AS thing to have irrational fears or something.

Maybe I 'm wrong but i always though addiction to nicotine affect most people that smoke, and it is common fact that nicotine is addictive. Also lots of people have irrationall fear.

do people on wrong planet think everythings asociated with having ASd because maybe some dont know Nts that well or are somewhat oblivous to their thoughts and feelings?



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19 Oct 2014, 11:57 pm

That is a lot of the reason we are here, to compare notes on our ASD. But not all things are ascribed to ASD only. Often it is part of the discussion, to sort out what parts are ASD and what is common to all.



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20 Oct 2014, 12:24 am

^this. it's trying to sort out what is a trait of ours and what is not, sort of separating stereotype from reality.


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20 Oct 2014, 7:06 am

A lot of members come to WP for answers to their questions. Many are new to their diagnosis, many have loved ones who are diagnosed, either a recent diagnosis or they began dating an individual with an autism spectrum disorder, or they're seeking a diagnosis. They ask these questions to help them bring peace and understanding to autism.

For people like me, I was diagnosed early in life and I've had my entire life to deal with autism spectrum related disorders, so I understand how it can be frustrating to read such posts as "Is this an aspie thing?" or "My husband hates me, is he autistic?" but I try my best to keep an open mind and help people understand. Maybe a question like that is painfully stupid to people who have dealt with it their entire lives, but to people who are new to it and (often) desperate to understand themselves, it's far from stupid, and asking for help often takes a lot of courage, so I try my best to show empathy to it.


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20 Oct 2014, 1:13 pm

Perhaps you don't know that many issues are directly related to one's mental state. It's a fact that schizophrenics are more likely to smoke, since nicotine has a unique effect on their brains.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia_and_smoking



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21 Oct 2014, 11:47 am

I can't say I disagree with the OP here. I get confused easily, and when I get confused, I then get curious. If there's a thread about nicotine being more addictive to Aspies than it is to NTs, I just have to express my argument. I know a lot of NTs that smoke, most are in denial that they are addicted to cigarettes, but you know that they are addicted, especially when a smoker wouldn't go out in the cold to do a chore but would go outside in the cold just for a cigarette. Or other situations where you're like ''do you really need one right now? You've just had one!'' or ''now's not exactly an appropriate time to have a cigarette, our train's going to arrive any minute!'' Heck, my NT friend forgot to bring her lighter so she ended up using a toaster to light up her cigarette, and almost electrocuted herself to death. Some people with really strong will power may be more able to give up smoking quick, but most people that I know who smoke just cannot give up, even after buying lots of leaflets about how to give up smoking.

But anyway, I won't go into that too much. When there's any condition being discussed, usually everything gets brought into it and somehow people get convinced into thinking that it really is to do with the disorder, when really it's just another human thing.

I must admit that there are a lot of far-fetched questions that have been asked on here before. Then there's the contradictions, like having loads of threads on Aspies and tunnel vision, then suddenly about a year later a thread springs up saying that apparently Aspies have better peripheral vision than NTs. Then it goes back to Aspies being tunnel vision-sighted again. I always find that frustrating and confusing when that happens. Maybe I've been on WP for too long and so can memorize older threads and I compare them to newer threads, I don't know.


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30 Oct 2014, 5:50 am

Oh, believe it or not, I have actually come across a thread about nicotine NOT having an affect on Aspies as much as it does with the general population!


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12 Nov 2014, 8:09 am

Caz72 wrote:

do people on wrong planet think everythings asociated with having ASd because maybe some dont know Nts that well or are somewhat oblivous to their thoughts and feelings?


Being ASD means we don't have a flying f**k of an idea what an nt thinks he or she is feeling
Being ASD means we're quivering behind the Atom bombs that NT casually describe as "importance"
BEING ASD MEANS NTS DON'T HAVE A FLYING f**k OF AN IDEA OF WHAT WE ARE THINKING OR FEELING!


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12 Nov 2014, 8:28 am

the only thing I find silly is when any character shows any signs of being socially awkward, antisocial, or abnormal people conflate that with autism. like eugene from the walking dead for example he's not a aspie he's just a overweight scientist with no style I don't know if I can say social skills. can't remember much about the character it seems like to do what he does it'd take a lot of manipulative social skills. pretty sure there are plenty of normie aspies so conflating autism with a lack of social skills is kind of an insult.. :lol:


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12 Nov 2014, 10:23 am

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the only thing I find silly is when any character shows any signs of being socially awkward, antisocial, or abnormal people conflate that with autism.

I just wanted to say, I like the avatar Security_Code. Clearly according to the above supposition? -autistic [because not normal, no boundaries awkward but not aaah!] : ]


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12 Nov 2014, 11:38 am

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the only thing I find silly is when any character shows any signs of being socially awkward, antisocial, or abnormal people conflate that with autism.

I just wanted to say, I like the avatar Security_Code. Clearly according to the above supposition? -autistic [because not normal, no boundaries awkward but not aaah!] : ]


Thank you, its Grigori Rasputin, the mad monk working on getting a beard as bad ass as his I have the same pattern as he does I think.

no just something I thought about on the topic. I don't like the conflation between autism, and negative stereotypes is unproductive and or ignorant. not sure that was my point it wasn't in reply to anyone It was just what I thought of when I read the tittle of the thread, dislike people making so many assumptions that a character is gay, autistic, etc, based on stereotypes.


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12 Nov 2014, 12:08 pm

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the only thing I find silly is when any character shows any signs of being socially awkward, antisocial, or abnormal people conflate that with autism.

I just wanted to say, I like the avatar Security_Code. Clearly according to the above supposition? -autistic [because not normal, no boundaries awkward but not aaah!] : ]


Thank you, its Grigori Rasputin, the mad monk...


Yeah I recognized. I like reading/watching stuff on him.


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06 Jan 2015, 6:41 pm

The first thing that "came to mind" when reading the subject heading, 'Why Do People on WP Associate Everything with ASD?' : Aspergers can be described as a not disabled enough, yet not able enough "never-never land of sorts" for both NTs and Aspergers alike!

In short, the dynamics of Wrong Planet often reflect the difficulties that both NTs, and people with Aspergers experience in "wrapping their minds" around what defines ASDs.

It can also be all to easy to associate unique behaviors with "the latest" diagnosis increasingly receiving press-coverage, movies, TV, and of course Internet coverage (in this case being ASDs). Yet, with growing awareness of ASDs, more and more people will refrain from associating ASDs with unique behaviors.



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07 Jan 2015, 3:54 am

It is a combination of ASD's are still not being well understood and most researchers' refusing to listen to us, leaving us little choice but to try and figure it out ourselves. A lot of these threads are ridiculous, but some unrecognized traits are discussed here often enough that they should be subjects for peer reviewed study, but won't be.


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07 Jan 2015, 12:23 pm

I think it's people trying to understand themselves better and NTs do the same thing too about ASDs. Ask if something their kid does is ASD or if something they do is more common in ASD kids. People do the same about their ASD partners.

TBH some stuff I have seen posted here I also saw posted at Babycenter in the community section, one example was about annoyance about how people pronounce words. That is a bit of a sensitive topic for me because I am someone with a speech problem so I say words differently and I would get teased for it as a child and now I get asked where I am from. That topic does come off as "I cannot stand people who have accents and who have speech impediment and who pronounce words differently in another part of our world/country."


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11 Jan 2015, 1:50 pm

I am not so sure everyone thinks everythings associated with having ASD, however people with ASD are still people so we have normal problems anyone would experience(though we might deal with them/perceive them a bit differently) than neurotypicals and also problems associated more specifically with the ASD. Sometimes it can be hard to really separate what is what so people can be curious if something they experience is more common among people on the spectrum or not.


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