Are all people liars, frauds and hypocrites?

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21 Mar 2007, 5:03 pm

InvisibleMan wrote:
The language may be harsh, but it is at least easy to understand. We beat about the bush too much and never say what we mean.

Is this one of those things that make us liars, frauds and hypocrites, or are we just trying to be nice and failing miserably?

Are we all liars, frauds and hypocrites? Is that what is required for the world to function? Or have we just gotten so used to being false, that we can nolonger be any other way?

Could the world tolerate an honest man?

I'm going to dissect and analyse these words.

Hyprocite:
1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2, a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
3. a person who professes beliefs and opinions that he or she does not hold in order to conceal his or her real feelings or motives

Key words: pretend, feign, and profess.

Using those words, satire, sarcasm, irony, etc. are forms of hypocrisy. If I were to quote opinions I don't agree with, I would be a hypocrite. Thus, hypocrisy is unweildy.

There is also pretension.

Pretension:
1. a false or unsupportable quality
2. the advancing of a claim; "his pretension to the crown"; "the town still puts forward pretensions as a famous resort"
3. the quality of being pretentious (behaving or speaking in such a manner as to create a false appearance of great importance or worth)

Instead of professing, pretending, or feigning, the key word is a quality that is false or unsupportable. However, anyone could exhibit a pretentious quality.

An example of a pretentious person:
"I am nice."
^-This is pretension. The individual is laying claim to being in a state of a quality without any hard evidence. Is it scientifically proven that this person is nice? =P

"I can be nice."
^-This is a conditional/potential statement and seems much more reasonable. For example, the earth is round-like. It would be pretentious to say that it is flat since there is no evidence or support for it. However, it has the potential to be flat or any other shape if the contingent factors exist to support it.

We can describe behaviours any way we please. Like, if I had a cat and I said it is beautiful. There is no evidence to support that so someone else can go up to the cat and say it is an ugly cat. Neither side has any strong evidence to support the claim of whether or not the cat is beautiful or ugly. So, the cat can be both beautiful and ugly or it can be neither of those two.

So what is the truth about the cat's qualities? Is there one truth or are both statements truths that contradict each other?

I propose that all sentient beings have their own "Map of Reality" and with this map, they ascertain their truths, but not all maps overlap perfectly. Thanks to control values and morality, people try and force down the throats of others that they must conform to one single map.. A child doesn't naturally grow up to become a member of society. In fact, the challenge is to socialise a child. We struggle to be social creatures. Society is unnatural. Rules are difficult.

For an individual to survive in their society, it is required that they adapt to fit the circumstances. If you have a cold virus, once your body recognises the virus, your body's immune system seeks out and destroys the virus. The nail that sticks up is the one that is most likely to be hammered down. So, the cold virus adapts and will continue to adapt. There is also the story of the boy who cried wolf, the message of that story is not to tell the same lie twice.

There are also plenty of parasites that will also coexist with the body, without these parasites, the body wouldn't be able to function quite correctly so I'll assuming that society has evolved in the same way where it is dependant on the parasites that coexist with it.

InvisibleMan wrote:
A wife asks her husband "Does this make me look fat?" He lies and says "No". Out she goes looking hideously overweight and nobody will tell her.

She probably should structure her question in a way where it is a definite yes or no, e.g. "Am I overweight based on my weight/height ratio?" Though, with such a question, she could figure it out herself unless she's too incapable to use a scale and a measuring stick.

As for fat, many people have fat tissues. Meaning, someone under the weight/height proportions are in fact fat. So, if I wanted to sidestep the issue, I would point out that she has fat underneath her skin thus rendering her fat. I'm guessing she's asking if the piece of clothing is capable of hiding her fat. =P

I actually had someone try and force me to say things that I don't necessarily believe, it's similar to the wife asking the husband whether or not they're fat but on a different subject.. Later the person called me a hypocrite in a demeaning manner because I was pointing out something (Strange how the person could do this when I was pointing out the fallibility of her statement of supposed virtues without even mentioning any about me). Laughable, how some forms of hypocrisy are all right but others are not with that individual. I did find some form of consistency in that it is not whether I say something I don't believe in or speak with tactless efficiency, but whether or not what I say offends the individual. -_-

Well, that's it for my rant. Mostly a repeat of what you probably just said, but I find this subject to be quite interesting.