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20 Jan 2015, 5:46 pm

As I see it, Israel or Palestina needs to go away somewhere. They can never live in peace after what happend, to much feelings.

Jews have no country, only Israel, it should be theirs.

Why cant Palestina move to Sinai desert island and build a great country there?

As a christian, I must support jews.

Discuss about this, give your solution to this conflict.

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20 Jan 2015, 6:57 pm

The Sinai desert is just that- a lunar landscape that you cant build a nation on. Whichever party you evict from Isreal-Palestine has to have a better place than that.

The ideal solution would have been to take a slice of eastern Germany the size of Palestine, and evict all of its German inhabitants. And then invite all Palestinian Arabs to move to that piece of vacated real estate and call it "New Palestine". And then let the Jews keep the original Palestine in the Near East. That way both Israelies and Palestinians would have a nationstate. And the only losers would be the Germans, and they deserve it because of what they did to the Jews in the Holocaust (this would be a form of reparation). The Palestinians would then renounce all claim to the original Palestine, but would have a well-watered piece of land at least as good the same size as the old Palestine- The Republic of New Palestine on the Baltic coast of Europe.

But nobody thought of that when Germany was newly defeated (and could be pushed around) back in 1945 or 47. So I dont see that solution as happening now.

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21 Jan 2015, 4:27 am

How about we divide the British Mandate along the obvious line, the Jordan river, and give the eastern half to the Arabs and the western half to the Jews?

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21 Jan 2015, 6:26 am

white_as_snow wrote:

Why cant Palestina move to Sinai desert island and build a great country there?

Egypt doesn't want them there. Nobody wants them anywhere.

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21 Jan 2015, 11:47 am

white_as_snow-

But as a Christian, shouldn't you want to stand with those Palestinian Christians who are your brothers and sisters in Christ? Not every Palestinian is a Muslim by a long shot.

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21 Jan 2015, 11:52 am

naturalplastic wrote:

Why evict Germans for the actions of a totalitarian government that they had no control over? And by the way, that was done - by The Russians who had seized eastern Poland, then had shipped those Poles into eastern most Germany after the ethnic cleansing the region of Germans at the end of the war. No one denies that the actions of the Nazis were abhorrent and indefensible, but two wrongs never make a right.

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21 Jan 2015, 5:01 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

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The fact that Germany lost several chunks of land comparable in size to Israel anyway (Pomerania, Silesia, East Prussia) is part of my rationale- of course we would have had to get Stalin to agree which would be a tall order- but ideally they could have taken one of those provinces lost in the east (say Pomerania) and made it into New Palestine- and it would have been on land that that was taken from germany (and ethnically cleansed of the germans living there) anyway.

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21 Jan 2015, 5:23 pm

^^^
Seriously, though, I doubt Palestinian Arabs would want to be uprooted from their sunny desert to live in a cold country of marshes and forests.

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22 Jan 2015, 11:02 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

^^^
Seriously, though, I doubt Palestinian Arabs would want to be uprooted from their sunny desert to live in a cold country of marshes and forests.

The German brown coal fields don't look very different from deserts. With a little bit of imagination this could be the Levant, you just have to plant some fake palm trees.

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22 Jan 2015, 11:53 am

trollcatman wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

^^^
Seriously, though, I doubt Palestinian Arabs would want to be uprooted from their sunny desert to live in a cold country of marshes and forests.

The German brown coal fields don't look very different from deserts. With a little bit of imagination this could be the Levant, you just have to plant some fake palm trees.

Those palm trees would die come the harsh winter.

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22 Jan 2015, 1:06 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

Those palm trees would die come the harsh winter.

That doesn't stop the Germans. Nothing does.

(it's indoors, in a hangar that looks like something a James Bond villain would use to hide a super weapon, but still
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2281349/Incredible-pictures-luxury-Tropical-Islands-resort-inside-enormous-German-hangar-surrounded-SNOW.html)

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22 Jan 2015, 1:59 pm

trollcatman wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Those palm trees would die come the harsh winter.

That doesn't stop the Germans. Nothing does.

Well, that's the Germans, but could anyone else pull it off?

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23 Jan 2015, 4:07 pm

naturalplastic wrote:

In 50 years you can build great things in Sinai, not in the desert, but just beside the sea.

Germany is a white secular country, you cant move Palestina to Germany. Thats just silly.

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23 Jan 2015, 4:08 pm

Humanaut wrote:

white_as_snow wrote:

Why cant Palestina move to Sinai desert island and build a great country there?

Egypt doesn't want them there. Nobody wants them anywhere.

Why not?

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23 Jan 2015, 4:11 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

white_as_snow-

But as a Christian, shouldn't you want to stand with those Palestinian Christians who are your brothers and sisters in Christ? Not every Palestinian is a Muslim by a long shot.

I keep hearing this, but its not true.

Today, Christians comprise less than 4% of the Palestinian population of Israel and the Palestinian territories - approximately 8% of the Arab population of the West Bank, less than 1% in the Gaza Strip.

Jews are also our brothers and sisters in christ, he is their messiah, when Jesus returns to save Israel, then all jews will finally accept Jesus as the savior.

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23 Jan 2015, 4:33 pm

white_as_snow wrote:

Humanaut wrote:

white_as_snow wrote:

Why cant Palestina move to Sinai desert island and build a great country there?

Egypt doesn't want them there. Nobody wants them anywhere.

Why not?

They don't like them.

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