I'm thinking to myself out loud these days.

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LonelyJar
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10 Feb 2015, 3:46 am

How do I stop?



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10 Feb 2015, 6:13 am

Does this happen all the time?

Is it brought on by stress?

What happens when you make yourself say it in your head only?



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10 Feb 2015, 6:14 am

Does this happen all the time?

Is it brought on by stress?

What happens when you make yourself say it in your head only?



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10 Feb 2015, 6:36 pm

SC_2010 wrote:
Does this happen all the time?

Is it brought on by stress?

What happens when you make yourself say it in your head only?

It's a recent problem that's getting worse each day. I think it's because of stress, even though I consider myself relatively stoic. Nothing happens when I make myself say anything in my head only, but for some things, I can't keep myself quiet.



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15 Feb 2015, 6:49 am

Do you have a therapist you can speak to? Not with the intent of 'fixing' it, just understanding it a bit more. I need to see mine for similar issues which I perceive as becoming a little embarrassing. I also imagine these issues have to do with stress.

For what it's worth, I think a lot of people tend to speak to themselves, which is why this old joke is so popular:

'What's the first sign of insanity?
Talking to yourself.
What's the second sign?
Answering back.'

I think most people can relate on some level :)


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15 Feb 2015, 3:52 pm

No, bungleton, I don't have a therapist. My parents say they'll consider getting me therapy after I prove to them that I can have a stable career. I feel that my parents want me to put the cart before the horse, especially since various recent problems of mine have been years in the making.

Btw, your avatar looks cool. What is it, and what does it mean?



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15 Feb 2015, 4:53 pm

I agree; can you reason with your larents and say that therapy can help you find a job by sorting through these issues and helping with career planning so you can find exactly what it is you want?

If you've been diagnosed with ASD perhaps you can use material from people like Temple Grandin or Dr. Tony Atwood stating that the autistic will flourish and meet their true potential once they find oit how they can put their talents to good use and find what they really want to do. It can be tough dealing with ones' folks when they remain stubborn on issues such as that.

As far as my avatar, I changed it last night but it doesn't seem to have updated properly on my side. Is it the pentagram or the profile of a man with the eye overlaid on his hand? If the former, it's a symbol adopted from Paganism which originally represented the four elements and spirit (I think,) which was decried as evil by the church and subsequently adopted by the Satanist movement as an anti-establishment statement... Or so I understand it. There are a lot of conflicting opinions on that one.
If it's the man facing the right, it's from Alex Grey's artwork from Tool's album, Lateralus. The booklet was a series of plastic sheets representing different spiritual and philosophical ideas that, when overlaid, made a complete representation of a human's 'subtle' energy systems. Check out his artwork if you like it, he's incredible!!


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How did I get here tonight? What am I doing here?
How did I reach this state? How did I lose my sight?
I'm lost! I'm freaking! And everybody knows!
Everyone's watching!
So here... Are my hopes and aspirations
Nothing but puke
God, I'm so loooooonelaaaaaaayyyy
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15 Feb 2015, 5:01 pm

LonelyJar wrote:
No, bungleton, I don't have a therapist. My parents say they'll consider getting me therapy after I prove to them that I can have a stable career.



That may be the most ridiculous thing a parent has said ever. I'm sorry.

Regarding 'thinking to myself out loud', I do that too. I actually pretend I'm talking to other people out loud, but usually not in public. Sometimes I slip, but that's what mobile phone headsets are for. It has never been a better time to be someone who talks out loud to nobody in public. Thank you, technology.

Is there a specific reason that it's a problem for you to think aloud to yourself? I imagine that could get a bit messy when there are others around, but other than that, is there a specific problem?



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15 Feb 2015, 11:18 pm

bungleton wrote:
...it's a symbol adopted from Paganism which originally represented the four elements and spirit (I think,) which was decried as evil by the church and subsequently adopted by the Satanist movement as an anti-establishment statement... Or so I understand it.

Then what's with the Hebrew letters??



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17 Feb 2015, 7:27 am

Thank you, Yahoo Answers :P

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The BAPHOMET Pentacle. This is not a strictly Satanic symbol, but is popular among certain sects of Satanism, particularly LaVeyan Satanism, or the Church of Satan. Frequently the hebrew letters for "Leviathan" appear. The goat is there to symbolise carnality, the value of the body and its pleasures. The pentacle is a symbol of sacred geometry (in any variation it usually maintains this symbolism).


I think it's simply a perversion of the original symbol over generations :) I'm in it for the aesthetics personally, I find reading about occult stuff entertaining and used to be quite superstitious, but overall I just find the inverted pentagram really pleasing to look at.


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How did I get here tonight? What am I doing here?
How did I reach this state? How did I lose my sight?
I'm lost! I'm freaking! And everybody knows!
Everyone's watching!
So here... Are my hopes and aspirations
Nothing but puke
God, I'm so loooooonelaaaaaaayyyy
*power stance, air guitar*


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18 Feb 2015, 9:04 pm

Anyone who claims that they never think out loud is lying. Anyone who says that thinking out loud is abnormal or bad is dumb.

Being able to put your feelings into words can help people to process those feelings better. That's why counselling is so popular. If actually verbally stating your thought process helps, then it's not inherently bad.



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19 Feb 2015, 2:39 am

MindBlind wrote:
Anyone who claims that they never think out loud is lying. Anyone who says that thinking out loud is abnormal or bad is dumb.

Being able to put your feelings into words can help people to process those feelings better. That's why counselling is so popular. If actually verbally stating your thought process helps, then it's not inherently bad.

MindBlind, I want to keep my thoughts to myself because I usually say something along the lines of "I want to die." when I think out loud. When I'm feeling really anxious, my thoughts just jump out, and my parents... aren't exactly the kind of people who can help me.



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19 Feb 2015, 2:47 am

LonelyJar wrote:
How do I stop?


I wish I knew. I do this too. Maybe its cause we lonely and got zero friends. Sometimes I talk to my dad's pitbull....


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