01 Apr 2015, 2:10 pm
01 Apr 2015, 3:03 pm
01 Apr 2015, 8:03 pm
trollcatman wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
As I have said before all one has to do is compare the lead up to WW1 to what is going on today and it becomes clear that unless we are very very careful history is about to repeat.
We have very similar situations the decline and rise of imperialist superpowers, crisis withing capitalism and the forming of alliances. What may prevent it is the globalization of capital, yet this may also be another powder keg with the contradiction of global finance and means of production bound with nation states.
One only has to look at what is going on in the Indian ocean to get an idea of the increasing tensions. Just about every major player is jostling for position, getting ready to step in in case the sea routes from the gulf are threatened. China and India are snapping at each other with both rapidly expanding their nava; presence in the area, alongside the US, France, Uk
Here is am interesting report of an article from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (interesting acronym, knew there was I reason I have never liked it)
ASPI
We have very similar situations the decline and rise of imperialist superpowers, crisis withing capitalism and the forming of alliances. What may prevent it is the globalization of capital, yet this may also be another powder keg with the contradiction of global finance and means of production bound with nation states.
One only has to look at what is going on in the Indian ocean to get an idea of the increasing tensions. Just about every major player is jostling for position, getting ready to step in in case the sea routes from the gulf are threatened. China and India are snapping at each other with both rapidly expanding their nava; presence in the area, alongside the US, France, Uk
Here is am interesting report of an article from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (interesting acronym, knew there was I reason I have never liked it)
ASPI
I read this article and was quite surprised. Australia has socialists?
There are tv shows on here that show the Australian customs people and the border patrols, from that show you'd think the Australians believe WW3 has started already.
Why are you surprised that Australia has Socialists? We've always had them. I consider myself to be one (being poor helps in this regard, for I can experience for myself the exploitation most of us are subjected to by the rich).
01 Apr 2015, 9:10 pm
Lintar wrote:
trollcatman wrote:
DentArthurDent wrote:
As I have said before all one has to do is compare the lead up to WW1 to what is going on today and it becomes clear that unless we are very very careful history is about to repeat.
We have very similar situations the decline and rise of imperialist superpowers, crisis withing capitalism and the forming of alliances. What may prevent it is the globalization of capital, yet this may also be another powder keg with the contradiction of global finance and means of production bound with nation states.
One only has to look at what is going on in the Indian ocean to get an idea of the increasing tensions. Just about every major player is jostling for position, getting ready to step in in case the sea routes from the gulf are threatened. China and India are snapping at each other with both rapidly expanding their nava; presence in the area, alongside the US, France, Uk
Here is am interesting report of an article from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (interesting acronym, knew there was I reason I have never liked it)
ASPI
We have very similar situations the decline and rise of imperialist superpowers, crisis withing capitalism and the forming of alliances. What may prevent it is the globalization of capital, yet this may also be another powder keg with the contradiction of global finance and means of production bound with nation states.
One only has to look at what is going on in the Indian ocean to get an idea of the increasing tensions. Just about every major player is jostling for position, getting ready to step in in case the sea routes from the gulf are threatened. China and India are snapping at each other with both rapidly expanding their nava; presence in the area, alongside the US, France, Uk
Here is am interesting report of an article from the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (interesting acronym, knew there was I reason I have never liked it)
ASPI
I read this article and was quite surprised. Australia has socialists?
There are tv shows on here that show the Australian customs people and the border patrols, from that show you'd think the Australians believe WW3 has started already.
Why are you surprised that Australia has Socialists? We've always had them. I consider myself to be one (being poor helps in this regard, for I can experience for myself the exploitation most of us are subjected to by the rich).
It was more of a joke. That article had a real anti-NATO slant, then I saw it was a socialist website. I don't know much of Australian politics, but what I heard was a lot of right wing rhetoric in my opinion. And a lot of anti-immigration paranoia that in Europe would be associated with far right parties. But as I said I don't know much about Australian politics. I did hear they have some fringe "hunters and farmers party" or something, doesn't sound hopeful to me.
I'm not trying to piss on Australia specifically, I live in the Netherlands and we used to have a pedo party a few years ago (seriously).
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03 Apr 2015, 3:30 pm
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04 Apr 2015, 11:49 am
As much as some religious fundamentalists will love to see that per apocalyptic prophecies of the human world ending, as a self-fulfilling prophecy, World War 3 is NOT GOING TO happen, for obvious reasons.
The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
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04 Apr 2015, 1:52 pm
aghogday wrote:
As much as some religious fundamentalists will love to see that per apocalyptic prophecies of the human world ending, as a self-fulfilling prophecy, World War 3 is NOT GOING TO happen, for obvious reasons.
The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
But don't forget Hitler. He obviously fit he definition of a psychopathic leader following an illusionary totalitarian/racist ideology. And he engaged in a war which eventually led to Germany's almost suicide, and his own real suicide (though doubtlessly, he had never intended for it to end that way).
04 Apr 2015, 2:26 pm
04 Apr 2015, 2:29 pm
Kraichgauer wrote:
aghogday wrote:
As much as some religious fundamentalists will love to see that per apocalyptic prophecies of the human world ending, as a self-fulfilling prophecy, World War 3 is NOT GOING TO happen, for obvious reasons.
The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
The folks with money and REAL POWER
who are in control, are NOT fundamentalist leaning religious folks
BASING WARRING terrorist actions on religious ideology or other illusory
ideologies.
They are all about power and money,
and are way way way too selfish,
to ever sacrifice their lives
for a notion of religion or
other silly ideological illusion
instead of REASON AND COLD HARD CASH.
WORLD WAR THREE ASSURES MUTUAL destruction.
Thanks GOD for 'psychopathic' leaning leaders,
AS they are way too selfish
to commit suicide for an ideology.
They are all about the money, and ironically that is a life saving ideology
when it comes to mutual destruction through nuclear war-heads of death.
Politics is all about human emotions. And while there is 'ISIS'
there is the all mighty dollar protecting human life too,
as well as 'psychopathic' leaning minds
that are totally selfish..
Where so called dark
becomes
light.
too.
Where 'psychopaths'
become the saviors
of humankind
wittingly
or
NOT.
I sleep soundly at night
realizing 'psychopathic'
leaders will never ever
let World WAR 3
become a reality.
But on the other hand
I more fully live and
understand the human
condition in just one life
time to more fully
understand this
with both
cognitive
and
affective
empathy more fully in tow..
But don't forget Hitler. He obviously fit he definition of a psychopathic leader following an illusionary totalitarian/racist ideology. And he engaged in a war which eventually led to Germany's almost suicide, and his own real suicide (though doubtlessly, he had never intended for it to end that way).
But no nuclear bombs before Adolph started and insights provided per that reality of losing..
Most all wars have been started by 'psychopathic' leaders leaders who 'think' they can win.
There are no more world wars like that possible so...
There is no way to win.
And generally speaking, 'psychopathic' folks don't commit suicide.
But of course, there are exceptions to all generalities, including mine here..
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