I now reject my diagnosis

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I make animal noises mostly specifically cat noises....and sometimes other random noises, but I do not smear feces on the wall. Not entirely sure why the former would have to be a disorder per say, does it really hurt anyone if someone wants to make animal noises? And for a non-verbal individual what if they find they are able to express some of what they feel via different animal noises different attempts aside from the norm to communicate should be encouraged rather than discouraged and 'corrected' at least in my opinion......The feces smearing on the other hand could be quite unsanitary and smell bad so that would certainly be a disordered behavior no matter how you slice it. Perhaps if such an individual needs to smear something on walls some finger paints or something that are washable...or set up a wall they can smear it on that doesn't have to be lost for instance would be something they could be re-directed towards.

Acceptance or rejection have no bearing on whether or not you have autism. Also, whose business is it whether or not you have it, anyway? I tell people I have it on a need to know basis. That means that I only tell who I want to tell. I'll tell a close friend maybe, because I may decide to explain some of my quirks and let them know that I'm aware of certain things about myself and that it's fine to point when I'm being annoying because I'm very aware of that potential. I might tell my doctor if I think that it's important for him to understand why I choose a particular treatment or why a specific symptom or side effect of something is more disturbing to me than to most people. Otherwise, why would I tell anyone at all? It's no more their business than it would be whether or not I have menopause or athlete's foot or depression.

However, I want to also point out that your level of severity is going to be a factor in whether or not people are going to treat you differently or wonder whats up with you to begin with. If you have very obvious symptoms then it's going to be useless to pretend they don't exist, and might be simpler to just casually explain to someone about it and that you are aware of it and it's not a big deal. Mainly, it's going to be as big a deal as you make of it, and how you handle yourself is going to be the long term factor in how people treat you. They may treat you funny at first when they first meet you and find out you have it, but after they see how you behave then they will start to get a clue that it's not something horrible to use against you. Mostly, they probably just don't know what to expect. You say "autism" to the average guy on the street and he's going to think of a barely communicating kid in a helmet, or possibly some oddball genius nerdy type. Just like anything else, it's got it's stereotype and image, and until more people start seeing regular folks that have it, they aren't going to know what to actually expect.

Of course I could go around telling everybody that I have it and hoping that might make them realize that the typical media portrayal of an autistic lady is way off base, but I don't want to deal with having to constantly prove to them that I have a normal IQ, I'm not about to lose it in the grocery store because they are out of cream cheese, and I can feed myself just fine thank you. I kind of get what you are saying, because it's the image of autism that probably causes most people who aren't obvious to go stealth with it like that.

It's really up to you, but keep in mind that rejecting your diagnosis won't do shinola. What you need to reject instead is the idea that it's anybody else's business what you have or don't have.

Cbf replying to your other post because reading this made me realize it would be an utter waste of time

the delusion, christ almighty

Nothing is wrong with making animal noises on its own. I presume that when I read about severe LFA (a long time ago) the noises referred to would have been obnoxiously loud or something like that.

I have times where I meow like a cat etc. - it's all good fun.

It seems like some people let the autism diagnosis define them. People are all different, and I just started saying I have social anxiety if they ask why I'm so quiet sometimes. If you feel like the diagnosis is doing you more harm than good, then I understand why you want to reject it. I also don't understand these negative attitudes towards NTs. They're not all sociopaths, or I wouldn't have any friends at all. Some people in general just make humans look bad.

I don't think it's a good thing to be negative about your diagnoses, I just also don't see the point in celebrating them.

I think you completely missed the point. It's not bad or good: the majority neurology is the default neurology, outside that neurology is a "disorder". Society has to have order, anything outside the norm is disruptive and disorder. I mean is the concept really that hard to grasp?

Yes it's hard to grasp because no matter what society you had there'd still be problems.. except in your hypothetical perfect world, which is entirely irrelevant.

That post wasn't referring to anything you had said anyway.

Yes, there would still be problems, there's always problems. The fact that society is intolerant of difference is the problem, not any individual group that doesn't fit the mold. The reason the OP is no longer identifying with autism has nothing to do with the disorders itself, it has to do with the way society treats him for the label-- if you look past why you can then develop true self-esteem without the approval of others. That's the point of the discussion. Value yourself, regardless of what other people say about you.

Society is also intolerant of as*holes, but in an imaginary hypothetical world they'd be considered nice. Hooray!

Taking all your comments together, are you implying that NONE of the currently classified mental disorders and/or pervasive developmental disorders is in any way harmful in and of itself? That they are ONLY problematic in terms of not being the norm?

I'm implying they are perfectly natural, the way we perceive them is not. That perception creates more harm to the individual in many cases than the actual disorder itself. Many times the self injury behavior of a mentally "ill" patient isn't created by the illness itself, but messages the individual receives from society about the illness. When was the last time you heard of a suicidal person leaving a note that said "I'm offing myself because I fit in so well." It doesn't happen, it's mainly for some perceived "failure" and loss of value in relation to other people. That's not psychology at work that's sociology at work.

Certainly some disorders are harmful to the individual, those that create actual physical harm drawn from the disorder should be treated, there is certainly a place for psychology but not to the purview it is now. Some mental disorders are only disorders because they don't fit the expectations of how a human should behave in current culture. Autistics are an example of this, schizophrenics are an example of this, ADD is an example of this. It does not fit the norm for behavior, it's out of the ordinary and thus a threat to order, thus it's a disorder. It's not that these illnesses are inherently unnatural, any species has a range of diversity, it's that society has created this warped view in which a natural process of diversifying is seen as "unnatural" and thus inherently wrong and bad.

Let me put it this way: evolution doesn't happen in one overnight leap. All the creatures of a new species don't magically pop up out of nowhere. Variations in the genetics of a species are constantly changing, this is the driving process in evolution. Variation is not inherently "unnatural", it's actually inherently "natural". By treating mental illness as something "unnatural" it's easy to discard and dehumanize it.

My "perfect world" scenario, not my word for it by the way, was merely an example demonstrating that "unnatural" vs "natural" is merely a matter of perception.

Lol, I think that's the world we're in actually.

You need to read more books if you're just going to grab another "label" for yourself.
Here is a review to one of those books that describes the reality of the "health" industry...

P.S.: Asperger's Syndrome is no longer an existing Diagnosis within the DSM ever since its version V came out (not that this version of "psychiatry" was ever based on real science in the first instance).

...then the humans will eventually discover that they were a genetically-engineered species... ;O

Yeah, them genetic-experiments, and under-ground Dulce-bases, man, they are over-powered...

Lol, I only live about 2 hours from Dulce.