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01 Jun 2015, 4:58 pm

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...In the 10 years to April this year the [U.K. Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA)] received almost 22,000 "spontaneous suspected" adverse drug reaction (ADR) reports in 13 routine immunisation categories including flu, MMR, tetanus, diphtheria and polio, according to a Freedom of Information response released earlier this month.

In the HPV category alone, ADRs numbered 8,228, of which 2,587 were classified as "serious" -- defined by several criteria, including whether it resulted in hospitalisation or was deemed life threatening.

The MHRA said that the figures did not reflect the true amount of ADRs because of an "unknown and variable level of under-reporting". The agency estimates it receives about 10 per cent of all reports, suggesting the actual number of girls suffering ADRs could be tens of thousands. It also said that "many millions" of the vaccinations were administered in this time frame without any problems reported....

Independent: "Thousands of UK Girls Injured by HPV Vaccine" (June 1, 2015)
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 86876.html

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01 Jun 2015, 6:18 pm

Why have you been linking to these anti-vaccine articles lately? Vaccines are necessary to protect against disease.

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01 Jun 2015, 6:49 pm

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Why have you been linking to these anti-vaccine articles lately? Vaccines are necessary to protect against disease.

I don't buy the "safe and effective" mantra for a moment.

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01 Jun 2015, 6:55 pm

AspieUtah wrote:

Jono wrote:

Why have you been linking to these anti-vaccine articles lately? Vaccines are necessary to protect against disease.

I don't buy the "safe and effective" mantra for a moment.

Are you against vaccines and the process of vaccination?

Have you joined the "Anti-Vaxxer" movement?

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01 Jun 2015, 7:11 pm

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Are you against vaccines and the process of vaccination?

Have you joined the "Anti-Vaxxer" movement?

Oooh, that reads quite McCarthyistic. "Are you now, or have your ever been an anti-vaxxer?" :lol:

I wouldn't know where to join. Does it have an address?

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01 Jun 2015, 7:28 pm

AspieUtah wrote:

Fnord wrote:

Are you against vaccines and the process of vaccination? Have you joined the "Anti-Vaxxer" movement?

Oooh, that reads quite McCarthyistic. "Are you now, or have your ever been an anti-vaxxer?"
I wouldn't know where to join. Does it have an address?

Andrew J. Wakefield
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Also...

"Generation Rescue" (Jenny McCarthy's own website)

"Living Whole"

So, are you an anti-vaxxer? I'm asking to determine if any of your future posts in this thread may or may not be worth my time to read and reply to.

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01 Jun 2015, 7:34 pm

Fnord wrote:

...So, are you an anti-vaxxer? I'm asking to determine if any of your future posts in this thread may or may not be worth my time to read and reply to.

I am a free-choice vaxxer (and free-choice gun owner, free-choice speech advocate etc.). And, all of my posts are entertaining, don't you think?

I believe in more debate, not less; more information, not less; more variety, not less; etc.

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02 Jun 2015, 2:27 am

For those who "attack" people who want to share info and discuss the vaccine situation...

What the f**k is your problem?! What are you scared of?! People actually having control over their own bodies? Who gave you power over everyone's conversations, or their bodies for that matter. Fascists. If you're not interested in this information, ignore it or give your opinion without labelling or attacking them! Why would you be against any debate on the subject. Is it because so called "anti-vaxxers" have some good points? Ffs, this forum is supposed to be open to anyone replying and offering their opinion but they get accused of being anti-vaxxers or told they should be covering up for bad practice in the vaccine industry. Grow up.

Have you actually seen what was posted? It gives numbers of how many people already believe this vaccine is unsafe. It took decades for thalidomide victims to overcome people like you. Do you still think that was a conspiracy theory?

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02 Jun 2015, 8:02 am

AlienorAspie wrote:

I thought the information contained in the linked report's chart was compelling. And, it was based on U.K. government statistics. Hm.

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02 Jun 2015, 1:03 pm

The HPV vaccine is unnessasary and abusive to mandate even apart from the questions of the safety of it.

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02 Jun 2015, 6:23 pm

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The HPV vaccine is unnessasary and abusive to mandate even apart from the questions of the safety of it.

Why? Because it protects against a sexually transmitted disease?

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02 Jun 2015, 6:44 pm

Regardless of the statistics, the statistics do not prove that the vaccines are the cause of the problem. In fact, here is actual study (something which the OP failed to provide) that proves that there is no connection between immune-deficient disorders and the HPV vaccine:

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Conclusions
No evidence of an increase in the risk of the studied ADs was observable following vaccination with Gardasil within the time periods studied. There was insufficient statistical power to allow conclusions to be drawn regarding individual ADs.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/joim.12155/abstract

Here's a blogpost from a medical professional that refutes what the Independent article that the OP posted is saying:

https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2015/06/01/the-independent-claims-hpv-vaccine-unsafe-science-says-the-independent-is-wrong/

Lot's of religious parents have a vested interest in attacking the HPV vaccines because they are more concerned about removing "deterrents to sexual promiscuity" than their daughters health.

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02 Jun 2015, 6:53 pm

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Jacoby wrote:

The HPV vaccine is unnessasary and abusive to mandate even apart from the questions of the safety of it.

Why? Because it protects against a sexually transmitted disease?

Because it wasn't designed or tested for use with males, let alone boys who are now being required to accept its administration. Because it was designed and tested for use in remote third-world regions where routine cervical examinations couldn't be performed, not for urban areas where such examinations are common and frequent. And, as the linked chart described well, there are problems with its use even under the best of conditions. Dr. Diane Harper was the lead researcher involved with the Gardasil studies and, in 2009, spoke out "about its risks, benefits and aggressive marketing" ( http://www.cbsnews.com/news/gardasil-re ... speaks-out and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diane_Har ... V_vaccines ).

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02 Jun 2015, 8:47 pm

Jono wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

The HPV vaccine is unnessasary and abusive to mandate even apart from the questions of the safety of it.

Why? Because it protects against a sexually transmitted disease?

Its a disease brought on by lifestyle, its is a disease that causes no symtoms in the vast majority of people, mandating it would be wrong.

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02 Jun 2015, 9:42 pm

Jacoby wrote:

Jono wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

The HPV vaccine is unnessasary and abusive to mandate even apart from the questions of the safety of it.

Why? Because it protects against a sexually transmitted disease?

Its a disease brought on by lifestyle,

So?

Jacoby wrote:

its is a disease that causes no symtoms in the vast majority of people,

You're at risk of cancer if you get it.

Jacoby wrote:

mandating it would be wrong.

Why? Given that it's pretty common for people to become sexually active during puberty and given that most people will eventually become sexually active at some point in their lives, why is it wrong to mandate vaccination against sexually transmitted diseases?

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02 Jun 2015, 10:02 pm

Jono wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

Jono wrote:

Jacoby wrote:

The HPV vaccine is unnessasary and abusive to mandate even apart from the questions of the safety of it.

Why? Because it protects against a sexually transmitted disease?

Its a disease brought on by lifestyle,

So?

Jacoby wrote:

its is a disease that causes no symtoms in the vast majority of people,

You're at risk of cancer if you get it.

Jacoby wrote:

mandating it would be wrong.

The government does not own me, I have the right to my own body.

Also no, I am not at risk of cancer from HPV as I do not have a cervix.

And so? So it isn't anything I would worry about for my young child.

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