Who can pass as NT really well; who is affable?

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10 Jun 2015, 2:08 pm

I know I can pass as NT really well and I'm very affable. I can do it without even thinking, someone who had major problems as a kid, including being in special ed for most of grade school, and was diagnosed as being on the spectrum at age 6.

I tire easily from social interaction, however. I hate the way it makes me very overstimulated and hyper.


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10 Jun 2015, 2:28 pm

beneficii wrote:
I know I can pass as NT really well and I'm very affable. I can do it without even thinking, someone who had major problems as a kid, including being in special ed for most of grade school, and was diagnosed as being on the spectrum at age 6.

I tire easily from social interaction, however. I hate the way it makes me very overstimulated and hyper.


OMG -- this post just made my day. I am newbie AS-diagnosed, and have been struggling with finding words to explain my experiences. I had a long social encounter today at work (by choice -- and it was fun, for the first 15 minutes) that has left me exhausted and overstimulated at the same time, with a return to the familiar state of feeling miserable and hating myself without knowing why. I am almost effortlessly NT, except that (as I am finally beginning to learn), it takes a huge toll inside, and I then will have hours- or days-long meltdowns, emotional shutdowns, and/or mutism. OMG, I am not alone in this world -- and I am not a weirdo! omg, omg, omg.

OK, enough dramatics. But this is really helpful. Thank you, beneficii!



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10 Jun 2015, 3:26 pm

No prob.

Sometimes, because of this, I wonder if I'm a psychopath, but no one else seems to think it.


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10 Jun 2015, 3:56 pm

It's exhaustive but I can enjoy it. A lot of my friends know about my HFA (or whatever it may be) and the rest are usually surprised if & when they find out. I've found a lot of routes around the shutdowns I once experienced, like Beneficii & Jennifer; they make it into a lot of my other posts so I'll just get my day started. Sleeping 10+ hours is one method.


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10 Jun 2015, 6:15 pm

I'm a pretty affable guy most of the time.

I make sure not to join discussions pertaining to the present-day popular culture.

People think I'm a court jester. Some court jesters, in medieval times, served as confidants to kings.

If I were to join the social groupings, my "cover" would be blown.



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10 Jun 2015, 10:07 pm

cberg wrote:
It's exhaustive but I can enjoy it. A lot of my friends know about my HFA (or whatever it may be) and the rest are usually surprised if & when they find out. I've found a lot of routes around the shutdowns I once experienced, like Beneficii & Jennifer; they make it into a lot of my other posts so I'll just get my day started. Sleeping 10+ hours is one method.


cberg -- this is very helpful. What else is on your list?



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10 Jun 2015, 10:09 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
1. I'm a pretty affable guy most of the time.
2. I make sure not to join discussions pertaining to the present-day popular culture.
3. People think I'm a court jester. Some court jesters, in medieval times, served as confidants to kings.
4. If I were to join the social groupings, my "cover" would be blown.


2. -- why?

4. -- not sure what this means. What do you mean by 'social groupings'? (genuinely curious; not being hostile here...)



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10 Jun 2015, 10:13 pm

I could IF I wanted to but in most cases it just feels like a waste of time to me unless they're my students or if they're around to help me to complete some errand(s).


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11 Jun 2015, 3:39 am

I can pass very well, if I really try. But it's very tiring hide my symptoms and such, so I prefer just being myself. It's too much effort for such a silly little thing.



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11 Jun 2015, 5:24 am

Laurelynn,

Unfortunately, it's hard for me to turn off the imitation. It's become second nature for me.

Then again, I have memories of constant social skills training in elementary school, middle school, and the early part of high school. At age 14, after a rather unpleasant incident, I became a lot more cooperative in attitude and sought to better myself, and so was much more receptive to the social skills training.


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11 Jun 2015, 8:05 am

"Social Groupings" = People who gather around, say, a water cooler to discuss various things.

People think I'm a "court jester" because I like to joke around.

I understand that I'm not the most eloquent person in this Site--but I don't feel like I need to be to get my point across.

#2 Because I don't know much about 2015 Popular Culture

#4 Because I tend to want to change to topic to one which I'm interested in. I tend to veer off in different directions; hence, I am thought of as being weird.



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11 Jun 2015, 8:09 am

I'm not exactly sure if I truly could, or no one really minds. But I do know, I could do it well enough not to be noticed. For all I know, whether I act natural or unnaturally, I'm rather noticeable. That odd comfortable gait attracts eyes. And that right conscious posture attracts eyes too, so I'm not exactly sure. For all I know, I never embarrassed myself in public yet, or end up with meltdowns or shutdowns since I gained enough tolerance.
Sometimes people mistook me for a raised-foreign native instead of odd when it comes to interaction. My best mask so far is indifference, and not exactly imitation. My 'cover' would likely blown if I get myself involve at all.
Overall, people just take me as odd or shy or both, but autistic/aspie? That almost never came up either because they really don't bother or just ignorant as always. But either ways, so far I'm fine with it.

From where I live, introversion isn't a mark of shame, and extroverts are usually inclusive towards the 'shy ones'. I can always say no to them without earning a glaring at me. Unless they're full of modern youths who are imitating 'foreigner's manners' to show them that they're at the higher social 'class'.


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11 Jun 2015, 9:24 am

I can pass if I don't have to interact too deeply or for too long, but I'm usually not affable. Due to the fact that I've lost faith in mankind (apekind I mean) , I'm depressed all the time because of it, and just want to escape this "civilization" trap. Because that's what it is. If you're not "sucessful" you're expected to accept the fact that you're being slowly starved out of existence and be happy about it. And if you're not happy, they will imprison or kill you. Which is for you "own good", of course. :cry:

So, yes I can,
But I hate doing it, and it drains the hell outta me.



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11 Jun 2015, 10:19 am

I can pass pretty well. Imitation, submission, and general sheeple-like behavior is pretty much reflexive for me at this point. I am currently working on saying "NO!" when truly necessary (for example, "Hey, BeeBee, let's go out on the back roads and get really high and take turns and bumps too fast so the car goes airborne! It's fun!!" "NO!" "Hey BeeBee, lend me your housekey so my boyfriend and I can skip class and use your dad's house to have sex while we watch PPV porn on his satellite dish and drink his alcohol!" "NO!" And yes, that really did happen (all except the "NO!" part). That was my ADHD cousin's idea of fun in high school.) and not feeling like an autocratic, killjoy, stick-in-the-mud jerk for it.

I am fairly affable and friendly. I genuinely like people. Not ALL people, but most of them. I wait for other people to initiate contact, because I understand that one such as me is not going to be welcome past a very superficial level in most social circles, but I'm fairly friendly. Just not outgoing.

And yes, social interaction-- even with people who know and understand-- wears me out. I get cranky, and process things even more slowly, and forget more stuff, and have a hard time focusing while at the same time falling into hyperfocus more easily, and I get more light- and sound-sensitive, and...

The one thing I DON'T mind is having a houseful of other peoples' kids. I don't have to play the social game with them. Just stop them from screaming, or fighting, or bullying and change diapers and admire costumes and art projects and get food and drinks and say, "Yes you may" or "No you may not."


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11 Jun 2015, 10:42 am

I can appear normal for short conversations. Lately, though, I have less and less reason to need to do so. Maybe it's the new medication (I'm now on Welbutrin XL vs no medication two months ago), but I just care less about being polite or trying to make inane conversation just because society says it's right to do so.


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11 Jun 2015, 10:48 am

I don't think I come off as having any form of autism, but I am not affable because I am not a very smiley person.

I am often preoccupied/in my own world and get stressed easily, which I think is the main reason I turn people off. I am not rude or unfriendly, but I think people find me difficult to approach. I don't like being this way.

I am a very different person when I am relaxed. But if I am walking down the hallway to get something, I am on a mission and very one-track minded. I won't be able to easily switch from that to a conversation that flows easily if someone were to say in the hallway and want to talk.

If I have time to sit down and take a breath and switch gears, I can have an enjoyable conversation.

It is not that I don't like people or don't want to talk, so much as my mind has to finish the course that it is on before I can engage with the person. Perhaps that lag time is what makes me seem unapproachable. I am very aloof.