THINGS NT'S DO THAT JUST DON'T MAKE SENSE!

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09 Aug 2015, 3:14 pm

I wonder if they do it because they think yelling will make you perform better, or precisely because it'll make you more clumsy so they'll soon have yet another reason to yell at you :)

Also, when there's some kind of technical difficulty to fulfill their wishes, forget about reasoning with them: they'll just escalate the yelling and the threats. They solve all problems by showing their status and power, in case you haven't yet gotten the message about why you'd better please them.


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10 Aug 2015, 12:20 am

Spiderpig wrote:
I wonder if they do it because they think yelling will make you perform better, or precisely because it'll make you more clumsy so they'll soon have yet another reason to yell at you :)


lol :lol:



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10 Aug 2015, 8:26 am

No matter who's in the right or wrong, shouting just rubs me the wrong way.
Then the shouting escalates and they talk rapidly but in the end no one convinces the other.
Then they calm down and -finally- means what they say. Why couldn't they have done that in the beginning?

I don't understand how you can speak properly when you're overloaded with so much emotion. For me, I'd need a calm environment with few people. I actually hyperventilated and choked when I gave a presentation on my dissertation, because so many people were watching me and the professor was asking a difficult question. The more agitated I got, the less intelligible I was, and it came out like word salad. Then a gurgle as I managed to hold onto the side walls (vision was flashing, low oxygen) and get back to my seat. I still don't remember what happened entirely that day.


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10 Aug 2015, 12:52 pm

some drunk guy yesterday seemed to want to walk with me rather than take mcdonalds home for his gf and her mates.

I think he walked about twenty minutes in the wrong direction and we barely spoke the whole time so it's not like it was for the banter.

honestly makes no sense to me at all.


He was telling me about how ambitious he was, and how much money he earned at first, then I just came out with I'm autistic and have no ambition lol.

then started going on about how we can be friends and go to the pub it doesn't matter if I don't speak etc.


I think he was planning to find me on facebook but I'm pretty sure he was to drunk to remember my name anyway.

whole thing seemed bizarre



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10 Aug 2015, 1:26 pm

Ralkuth1456 wrote:
No matter who's in the right or wrong, shouting just rubs me the wrong way.


But, as long as an actual physical fight doesn't break out, people usually assume the one who yells the most is in the right, don't they? I think the reasoning is they couldn't be so loud and so firm in their conviction of being right if they actually weren't. Only if their opponent proves somehow to be more powerful---e.g., beating them up---will their yelling be considered unjustified and therefore a fault in and of itself. If you kick your opponent's ass, then obviously you're right, as there's no way you could have the strength and the undoubting remorselessness to do it if you weren't.


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10 Aug 2015, 3:12 pm

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some drunk guy yesterday seemed to want to walk with me rather than take mcdonalds home for his gf and her mates.

I think he walked about twenty minutes in the wrong direction and we barely spoke the whole time so it's not like it was for the banter.

honestly makes no sense to me at all.


He was telling me about how ambitious he was, and how much money he earned at first, then I just came out with I'm autistic and have no ambition lol.

then started going on about how we can be friends and go to the pub it doesn't matter if I don't speak etc.


I think he was planning to find me on facebook but I'm pretty sure he was to drunk to remember my name anyway.

whole thing seemed bizarre


My wife complains about stuff like this all the time. To me it's an example of someone objectifying a woman and being obsessed with sex over everything else. Whatever he was saying to you was probably some clumsy attempt at having sex with you, whether it be by getting you drunk or whatever else. My wife told me that one time a guy, while waiting for his wife and daughter to exit the bathroom, tried to get her phone number.

A strange drunk man following a woman in public should set off some alarms for you. In your position I would consider this man a potential danger and avoid putting myself in any position where he would be able to rape me. For example, if it is late at night, I would try to stay in brightly lit and public places. Maybe even go to a store and stay there until he leaves, or possibly call the police and ask them to escort you home. I would definitely not let him buy me a drink at the bar. I think you were spot-on in identifying this as odd behavior. But I think I would go a step further and consider it odd, antisocial and potentially malicious behavior and then act appropriately cautious around this individual.

Obviously this specific man did not actually try to rape you, which is good, but I think it's better to be cautious in that sort of situation.

Not all men are like this, but a surprisingly large number of men seem to believe that when they see a woman who they are attracted to, then they are entitled to harass them and even follow them regardless of the situation.



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10 Aug 2015, 5:00 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
Ralkuth1456 wrote:
No matter who's in the right or wrong, shouting just rubs me the wrong way.


But, as long as an actual physical fight doesn't break out, people usually assume the one who yells the most is in the right, don't they? I think the reasoning is they couldn't be so loud and so firm in their conviction of being right if they actually weren't. Only if their opponent proves somehow to be more powerful---e.g., beating them up---will their yelling be considered unjustified and therefore a fault in and of itself. If you kick your opponent's ass, then obviously you're right, as there's no way you could have the strength and the undoubting remorselessness to do it if you weren't.

That kind of behavior strikes me as being the usual NT domination game. So many of them are so obsessed with their status that they can act in an irrational manner when every blessed thing doesn't go their way. Right or wrong doesn't factor in.


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10 Aug 2015, 5:11 pm

I really, really, try not to respond to yelling. I want it expunged from my life.



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10 Aug 2015, 11:39 pm

@Glebel, Spiderpig
I've rarely lost it nowadays, and when I'm overwhelmed I just try and exercise or hit inanimate objects to calm down (usually something durable like a striking pad). 5 years back, an incident taught me yelling is just about the worst way to make people understand you or reign in emotions (it doesn't).
So normally, people would shout in an argument to establish dominance? To emphasize that they're in the right?

kraftiekortie wrote:
I really, really, try not to respond to yelling. I want it expunged from my life.

I can't stand shouting - it's as if the anxiety is infectious. It's about as uncomfortable as when it's completely silent and your ears ring and you can't get rid of it. I lose my train of thought and emotion starts to overwhelm me. There's got to be a way to deal with this kind of stress. Can't be good for any job...


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