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18 Aug 2015, 6:26 pm

Don't worry we have our share of the loony left socialist types like on Q& A with their social engineering its even in our footy now no wonder the attendances are down.



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21 Aug 2015, 8:34 am

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Don't worry we have our share of the loony left socialist types like on Q& A with their social engineering its even in our footy now no wonder the attendances are down.
Yeah, I don't like the loony lefties either. They're social engineering seems to be half baked.

For example, I heard they had a plan to make it mandatory for students to stay in school through year 12. They think if everyone is more educated everyone will have a better chance to get a job. Nonsense. If employers only hire the most educated applicants and you raise the average level of education for the whole population, you don't increase the number of people in the top segment.

It's like they think if everyone studies more they can squeeze everyone into the top 50% but it only raises the bar higher. If you let some students drop out, it makes it less competitive for the students who wouldn't have dropped out anyway. Now the ones who already wanted to be ahead of their peers will have to try even harder to remain ahead.

Look at places like South Korea were you need to be in the top 50% to have a future. If you're not in the top 50% they act disappointed but no amount of studying will fit 100% of the population into the top 50%, even if you greatly raise the average. It is a tragedy of the commons because now the average level is many times higher than it was before increased competition.

The only way to avoid the arms race of competition is to make it acceptable for some people to not compete so that it becomes easier for those who remain in the competition.


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21 Aug 2015, 8:36 am

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you're so lucky to live there already. :|
Yes we are. But we don't have fibre to house internet like all you yanks do. And to make matters worse we have to put up with cartoonishly stupid, sociopathic right-wing politicians.
all us yanks certainly do NOT have fiber to house internet, I know I don't. it's all copper lines out in the boonies where I live. the only reason I even have a weak dsl-lite is 'cause a walmart was built down the road so they upgraded the county infrastructure to accommodate them. and we certainly are chock-full of toxic right wing extremists here also.
Oh. The lefty politicians who were trying to mudsling the rightly politicians who cancelled the plan to give everyone fiber to the house internet gave me the impression that the rest of the world already had fiber internet and that our DSL system was extremely outdated, making us the laughing stock of the world.


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21 Aug 2015, 1:03 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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you're so lucky to live there already. :|
Yes we are. But we don't have fibre to house internet like all you yanks do. And to make matters worse we have to put up with cartoonishly stupid, sociopathic right-wing politicians.
all us yanks certainly do NOT have fiber to house internet, I know I don't. it's all copper lines out in the boonies where I live. the only reason I even have a weak dsl-lite is 'cause a walmart was built down the road so they upgraded the county infrastructure to accommodate them. and we certainly are chock-full of toxic right wing extremists here also.
Oh. The lefty politicians who were trying to mudsling the rightly politicians who cancelled the plan to give everyone fiber to the house internet gave me the impression that the rest of the world already had fiber internet and that our DSL system was extremely outdated, making us the laughing stock of the world.

I'm so far out in the boonies that we use smoke signals, and I'm about 60 road miles from L.A. Actually, I have a choice between satellite and dial-up, and the satellite service is too expensive. Apparently, services are allocated by population density.


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21 Aug 2015, 5:22 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
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you're so lucky to live there already. :|
Yes we are. But we don't have fibre to house internet like all you yanks do. And to make matters worse we have to put up with cartoonishly stupid, sociopathic right-wing politicians.
all us yanks certainly do NOT have fiber to house internet, I know I don't. it's all copper lines out in the boonies where I live. the only reason I even have a weak dsl-lite is 'cause a walmart was built down the road so they upgraded the county infrastructure to accommodate them. and we certainly are chock-full of toxic right wing extremists here also.
Oh. The lefty politicians who were trying to mudsling the rightly politicians who cancelled the plan to give everyone fiber to the house internet gave me the impression that the rest of the world already had fiber internet and that our DSL system was extremely outdated, making us the laughing stock of the world.

on my side of the pacific pond, it is mainly the larger cities with high-speed internet, the lions' share of small towns and countryside are lucky to even have dial-up at all because 9600 baud is all most phone companies will guarantee with old copper phone lines. in practice the throughput is in the high teens or low 20s. but your "lefty politicians" WERE correct in that much of the rest of the western world [aside from amuurica which is an outlier] DOES have superior internet infrastructure.



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21 Aug 2015, 9:29 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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Don't worry we have our share of the loony left socialist types like on Q& A with their social engineering its even in our footy now no wonder the attendances are down.
Yeah, I don't like the loony lefties either. They're social engineering seems to be half baked.

For example, I heard they had a plan to make it mandatory for students to stay in school through year 12. They think if everyone is more educated everyone will have a better chance to get a job. Nonsense. If employers only hire the most educated applicants and you raise the average level of education for the whole population, you don't increase the number of people in the top segment.

It's like they think if everyone studies more they can squeeze everyone into the top 50% but it only raises the bar higher. If you let some students drop out, it makes it less competitive for the students who wouldn't have dropped out anyway. Now the ones who already wanted to be ahead of their peers will have to try even harder to remain ahead.

Look at places like South Korea were you need to be in the top 50% to have a future. If you're not in the top 50% they act disappointed but no amount of studying will fit 100% of the population into the top 50%, even if you greatly raise the average. It is a tragedy of the commons because now the average level is many times higher than it was before increased competition.

The only way to avoid the arms race of competition is to make it acceptable for some people to not compete so that it becomes easier for those who remain in the competition.


I think it was Keating that wanted to close the technical schools and have everyone go through to year 12 because he wanted a clever country. :roll:
Now we're short of Tradies we need them more than academics with their social engineering.



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22 Aug 2015, 3:57 am

Aprilviolets wrote:
Don't worry we have our share of the loony left socialist types like on Q& A with their social engineering its even in our footy now no wonder the attendances are down.

Second time you've bagged the left wing of this country. No prizes for guessing your preferences.

Do you want to actually state what the left have done to Q&A or AFL because I'm struggling to see an association. QANDA is one of the few intellectual programs that makes a valiant attempt at critical thinking. I know critical thinking is considered dangerous by your right wing friends who make up lies about climate change to not invest in green technology and prop up/protect the coal industry.



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22 Aug 2015, 6:34 pm

The AFL pushes socialist agendas like Multiculture round, the Gay Pride round, the indigenous round.
people go to the footy to escape those sort of things.

As for Q & A that is a lefty show that shouts down anyone who doesn't agree with them.



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23 Aug 2015, 5:43 am

Aprilviolets wrote:
The AFL pushes socialist agendas like Multiculture round, the Gay Pride round, the indigenous round.
people go to the footy to escape those sort of things.

People can choose not to go to the "special rounds" if they don't want. People go to the footy to watch their team play, I don't think you speak for all footy fans (although I hate AFL myself) that they enter a football ground to escape political correctness??

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As for Q & A that is a lefty show that shouts down anyone who doesn't agree with them.

LOL! I think you'll find last week's show the largest segment of the Q&A audience are liberal voters (Audience: ALP 37%, Coalition 41%), this is the same each week if you go and check the QANDA website. The biggest supporters of the ABC are not left wing loonies but right wing farmers and rural supporters of the national party.



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23 Aug 2015, 4:40 pm

Don't bother to invade Australia, you're better off where you are. This country combines the worst aspects of left-wing and right-wing. It's the worst of both worlds. I'm declaring Australia to be a quarantine zone in order to contain the virus of right-wing socialists.


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23 Aug 2015, 5:48 pm

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Don't bother to invade Australia, you're better off where you are. This country combines the worst aspects of left-wing and right-wing. It's the worst of both worlds. I'm declaring Australia to be a quarantine zone in order to contain the virus of right-wing socialists.

though there are some here and elsewhere who might interpret something like this as being one of those self-protection things, deterring too many people from spoiling a good thing, i.e. so as to not dilute it, "tragedy of the commons" style.



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23 Aug 2015, 10:17 pm

auntblabby wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
Don't bother to invade Australia, you're better off where you are. This country combines the worst aspects of left-wing and right-wing. It's the worst of both worlds. I'm declaring Australia to be a quarantine zone in order to contain the virus of right-wing socialists.

though there are some here and elsewhere who might interpret something like this as being one of those self-protection things, deterring too many people from spoiling a good thing, i.e. so as to not dilute it, "tragedy of the commons" style.


Very perceptive :wink:



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23 Aug 2015, 11:05 pm

...I'm just kicking this one back up , although to justify it ~ Look , I do kind of mean " stabilized " homeless people living in those caves , kind of " living rough " (The Commonwealth-ism for sleeping outside is " sleeping rough " :( ) .


...It seems a lot of homeless people of a more " stable/permanent ' well-off ' " , nature , so to speak ,in Oz live in caves near cities out by the ocean ?
On a homeless-oriented board* that in fact came out of AU that I used to post on ~ It's now inactive/off the Web but its owner still has a placeholder page ~ I recall a post by a fairly long-term/stabilized HL , he was going to college/uni in town & living in a by-the-beach cave , IIRC .


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May I ask something?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K89Xa7RuH88
Do Australians in general think about these things today?

And this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyJp_Sg1M_c
(full episode here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m04zAef07Cs )
He lived in this tin shack, very spartan to say the least (with rats and snakes and god knows what as bonus pets :lol: )
Is it legal, don´t your health and safety authorities regulate such things yet?


You may.

You only really hear of dingoes mentioned if there's a human attack somewhere (usually Fraser Island, as there's many there for a small area). I've only seen them on said island (I might have heard some howling when I first moved here, but they might have been a pack of feral dogs). They don't seem to be as adapt at hunting like feral cats, so they're often really skinny. People see that they're native critters. I suppose they are, but you can tell they never evolved here.

As long as you own the land and pay the council rates, you can live how you want on it for the most part. People often build sheds on blocks of land out here as you have somewhere to live whilst you save up for a proper house (some people stay in the sheds; there's a dude just down the road that lives in his shed, and he has for over a decade). Funnily, my mother had a wild joey living in her home when she was young and living even further out west; they like pillow cases to sleep in (he had my room before I was born).

You can go bush and live that way too without owning land, just don't bring attention to yourself (like, bothering people). :) When there's so much space, the law doesn't really care unless you're being a nuisance.[/quote][/quote]