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Like Hughes and Gracie etc.

I have been in numerous fights and no-one's tried that stuff yet as it's unlikely to work on the street, id use direct ilegal moves to combat it if they did. Anyway id rather get busted up bad and lose by knockout than have to admit to winning in one of the sissy ways you describe.[/quote]



There's nothing sissy about breaking an arm

It reminds me of a game called mercy that i played when i was a kid. The 'combatants' linked fingers and we proceeded to try and bend each others wrists back until the loser and said 'mercy' (or pulled fingers away but that's a risky tactic) to indicate a quit.

Well grappling/submission's the same thing, one 'fighter' -realising that they cant actually fight and is liable to take a beating- looks to find a scaredy cat way out while still claiming a 'W' and cowardly bends wrists/feet/arms back till the other quits like a baby. It's time to grow up and stop looking to play schoolboy games, fighters should step up and punch each other like gentlemen until one man is no longer standing. Rolling around the mat with fellow sweaty, hairy and beefy men should be left to gay porno movies and has no place in the fighting arena.

(Note- i dont have a problem with gayness but dont believe it is a legitamite form of fighting)

Notice where Mr Armbreaker puts his victim's arm and the unambiguous expression of sheer pleasure on his face? That's more molestation than battle stations!

Yeah. Because violence itself isn't immature to begin with. I see now how obvious it is that there are certain, proper ways to do battle, and that they all must involve doing massive damage.

Because, ya know, anything else is just immature.

I remember kids playing lots of games that involved punching, does that make punching a sissy tactic?



A fighter doesn't HAVE to quit when they are put in a hold, but if they don't, they get a broken bone (or get choked unconscious). If somebody sees grappling as sexual, (which sounds like a comparison only a child would make) I think that says more about them than the martial arts they rail against.

Hiya,

I have been doing TaeKwonDo for the best part of two years and i have attained my green belt in WTF. When i first started i was terrable, but i had the ommmph that most people do not have to keep on going. i have been unable to get to the class for the lest few weeks (long story) but last time i went many people commented on my sparring. I seem to have the knack for having patterns in my sparring which are complicated that nly i understand and seem to work time and time again.

hope this helps,

jammie

I'm black belt in karate!

I agree 100%. I think it makes no sense to say that ground fighting is childish and call it gay.

eamonn, have you ever practiced anything which involved ground fighting? If not, then I suggest that you practice it to understand how the sport works so you can see the light. I have never practiced ground fighting, but I'm not going to call it cheap or gay because I don't understand much about it.

One of my uncles practice boxing. Before he practiced it, he thought boxing was all about being an angry brawler and throwing as many punches as you can. However, after he practiced boxing, he knows there's a lot more to it than just being an angry brawler. Offense, defense, and strategy are important in boxing, contrary to what he used to believe.

Il start to learn groundfighting when im no longer able to throw a punch and too scared to accept a defeat like a man and use grappling as a cowards way out.

Defence and tactics is weak. Do you think people would get away with covering up on the streets where it really happens? Not likely!

Taekwon-Do rocks.. Pitty your doing WTF and not proper ITF Taekwon-Do.

Ask anyone who practices boxing if defense and tactics are weak. They'll disagree with you.

Covering up is the last defense you use. You only use it when other defenses aren't an option. Covering up is very effective and it is a lot better than leaving your head exposed for punches. When those other defenses are an option, it could be parrying, blocking, evading, jamming, etc.

I don't know if people will get away with covering up on t3h d34dly str33ts, but it's a lot smarter than dropping your hands and taking blows to your head. Most of the time when people lose consciousness in a fight in the streets is due to a blow to an exposed area of the head or a stomping while on the ground. If the person does get knocked out while covering up, it's most likely due to a punch directed upwards (uppercut) since covering up provides no protection under, although it does offer protection from straight and circular punches.

@MindOfOrderedChaos: Just because ITF is the original style, it doesn't make it the proper form. There is no proper form, each styles have strengths and weaknesses and different goals. Not sure why it's a pity if the person enjoys WTF TKD style.

Yea me I train in Muay Thai and Brazilian Jujutsu, I would like to compete one day.

my husband did judo for some years (he is unofficial AS) and he loved it. He finally decided to quit when he was getting too many injuries and it was interfering with his studies, but there is Judo for international competition and then there is other Judo for other purposes, and he was in the super-competitive kind. Obviously, you don't have to do the kind where you break all the bones in your body like jackie chan has. I think one of those stories written above is fiction but he did actually have a somewhat cruel sensei, though not that cruel. Um... If you have a teacher who cares more about the students' safety than about winning matches I think it's good. You could email us with questions in English or Spanish at nl.gf.ss at gmail dot com.

I do American Kenpo and Jujutsu. It's done me a lot of good, especially for my posture (which was extremely poor, I'd always walk hunched over so I wouldn't meet people's eyes) Jujutsu-especially the groundfighting aspect- has been especially good for me, because it has helped me confront my fear of physical contact. I'd definitely reccomend it.

there's other stuff that martial arts can help with, too ... he said judo helped him with fear of or dislike of touching people. he's much more able to touch people than I am, for example, although he still doesn't like it in a social context unless it's someone he really knows well.