Terrorists are on the rampage in Paris

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16 Nov 2015, 2:57 pm

Russia and Syria have been allies for a long time, since at least WW2.



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16 Nov 2015, 3:09 pm

Russia has bombed ISIS many times, would you like video and photo proof? It's just a totally fake narrative to take the attention that ISIS was essentially created by the west and it's allies, ISIS is mostly in the far west of Syria and Iraq whereas most of the population population of Syria live in the east which is where you see the fighting right now(Latakia, Aleppo, Homs, Damascus) If we had attacked Syria last year when they wanted to then ISIS and assorted non-ISIS Islamists would have full control of the country. There would be a genocide, make no mistake about it that these "moderates" want to purge Syria of every Christian, Druze, Shia, Alawite, etc. The situation could be a lot worse believe it or not. The "rebels" have used chemical weapons many times, there was never reliable information that Assad was responsible for that attack especially considering the conditions it was under. Who benefits? That's what you have to ask. Assad is the only secular figure that will protect women and minorities, the rest demand Sharia.



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16 Nov 2015, 4:11 pm

According to Israeli newspaper "Times of Israel", jews were warned about the attacks in advance:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-france-defense-experts-see-parallels-to-israel/



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16 Nov 2015, 8:23 pm

AR1500 wrote:
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Israel military admitted to the UN to supporting ISIS and Al-Qaeda in Syria.
Turkey had a hand in it too until they turned on Turkey!
http://www.globalresearch.ca/israeli-mi ... ia/5464484
http://www.timesofisrael.com/yaalon-syr ... raeli-aid/

Here's how Israel actively helped create Hamas.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... ate-hamas/
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB123275572295011847




If this is indeed the case, then Israel really needs to get a grip and stop supporting terrorism.

"The enemy of my enemy is friend" is one of the dumbest things anyone ever said or thought up. The fruits of this stupidity resulted in the 9/11 attacks and the Boston Marathon bombing. And thousands of Israeli civilians are paying the price. Islamists are NOT our friends nor allies and they never will be. Aiding the Mujahideen against the USSR was deadly mistake that paved the road to 9/11. First there was the '93 WTC bombing and had that succeeded it would have killed up to 80,000 people. Then there was the embassy bombings in Africa in '98, then the USS Cole attack in '00.

And you want to demonize Russia for bombing the sh*t out ISIS in Syria??? Russia has the right idea and both the US and Israel should be cooperating with them to wipe these guys out.

Israel like Turkey will stop when they are forced to do so.
Right now they have no reason, because they are able to buy "peace" at home.


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17 Nov 2015, 11:27 am

Neotenous Nordic wrote:
According to Israeli newspaper "Times of Israel", jews were warned about the attacks in advance:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-france-defense-experts-see-parallels-to-israel/


The link does not support your interpretation in the least degree.

This leads one to wonder, how does someone who interprets things in this very peculiar way really feel about jews? Perhaps such a person has thoughts that cannot be directly expressed without violating the terms of service of this site?



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17 Nov 2015, 11:33 am

I do get that people can have very different perspectives. And they can interpret the same thing differently.

But I am always surprised at how much people can believe or lend credence to conspiracy theories. It is understandable to see it more commonly in places where access to information is limited or restricted. That is a sort of natural breeding ground for it.

But I have to say some of the things mentioned here are trully ludicrous. If you want to be a commercially grown Mushroom all your life, that is kept in the dark and fed sh*t, fine. But please do not insult others intelligence by peddling bs.



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17 Nov 2015, 11:51 am

Adamantium wrote:
Neotenous Nordic wrote:
According to Israeli newspaper "Times of Israel", jews were warned about the attacks in advance:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-france-defense-experts-see-parallels-to-israel/


The link does not support your interpretation in the least degree.

This leads one to wonder, how does someone who interprets things in this very peculiar way really feel about jews? Perhaps such a person has thoughts that cannot be directly expressed without violating the terms of service of this site?


Go look at the anti-arab thread that's brewing. You conveniently overlooked that one, didn't you?

Once you've policed the arab haters in that thread, then we can talk about the points you're bringing up. Until then, let's see if you're congruent in your protection of Abrahamics or if you're favoring jews over arabs.

Here are some more interesting articles from the middle east. I think it's important to not only read news perspectives from ones own country, but to see it from a variety of perspectives:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-owners-recently-sold-pariss-bataclan-theater-where-is-killed-dozens/

http://www.palestinechronicle.com/fighting-islamic-state-is-not-the-israeli-priority/#.VKQr8SusWSo

http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium-1.605097

http://www.ibtimes.com/syrian-general-accuses-israel-collaborating-isis-al-qaeda-linked-rebels-1740800


Feel free to call for peace any time, like I am doing. Your arguments would carry more weight that way.



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18 Nov 2015, 4:28 am

Neotenous Nordic wrote:
Once you've policed the arab haters in that thread, then we can talk about the points you're bringing up. Until then, let's see if you're congruent in your protection of Abrahamics or if you're favoring jews over arabs.


If there is a post you want to see "policed" by moderators, please report it.

Meanwhile, the posts that led to my tentative hypothesis were these:

viewtopic.php?f=23&t=298055&p=6859452#p6859452

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=298146&p=6862425#p6862425

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=292086&p=6859867#p6859867

They seem suggestive of a certain outlook. Perhaps I did not understand you?



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26 Nov 2015, 8:40 pm

Adamantium wrote:
Neotenous Nordic wrote:
According to Israeli newspaper "Times of Israel", jews were warned about the attacks in advance:

http://www.timesofisrael.com/in-france-defense-experts-see-parallels-to-israel/


The link does not support your interpretation in the least degree.

This leads one to wonder, how does someone who interprets things in this very peculiar way really feel about jews? Perhaps such a person has thoughts that cannot be directly expressed without violating the terms of service of this site?


Of course. There are always the conspiracy theories about us.

I guess the General Committee of The Elders of Zion couldn't contact me yet, and that's why I've written you shouldn't blame all Muslims because that's what they (=the terrorists) want. After all, we planned it all, didn't we? Reminds me of how my dad was in NYC during the 9/11 attacks, and I was sacred to death. I guess he was alright just because he was warned. Because you know, it's all a big conspiracy. Just like my grandmother luckily escaped Auschwitz, and wasn't killed by Nazi Germany who had her under slavery conditions for three years. I guess her stories about how she used her skills to be a tailor (as she was before the Nazis took her away) in exchange for some bread were lies. The ink she used to have on her hand was just a fashionable thing. Because you know, that's how Jews are. She actually killed her family, I suppose, no the Nazis. My other grandmother told me stories about her family who were murdered by the Nazis in Greece. I guess it's also a lie.

Now of course this guy will say that typically, as a Jew, I'm bringing out the Holocaust.
And I say that typically, just like people deny the Holocaust, and claim of some Jewish conspiracy back then, they claim so now.

And no, not everyone who is against the State of Israel is an antisemite. Not everyone who is pro-Palestine is antisemite. But someone who uses every possible excuse to blame Jews - is one. We don't even need to be on the parties involved. We'll always be accused.

And then people wonder why want to have our own country. Why? Because that's what we had to deal with in every f*****g place we were. That doesn't justify everything our military does. That doesn't make the idiot Bibi right when he speaks like a fool in the UN. But it gives you some idea about why we Jews are so "fanatic" about having a sense of a Jewish community and having our own country. Because for you it might just be a random poster, but to me it's just the metaphoric incarnation of the people who bullied and threatened and hurt and killed my family.

And as I said - that's exactly why I'm worried about any anti-Muslim sentiment. Because I know what it's like to be a minority, "thanks" to my family's experience. This guy blames Jews, and I obviously can't even try to speak to him. Even if he tries now, I won't. I'm sorry, I just won't. When someone says my people sold a theater because they knew there would be an attack... Sorry, I can't even dignify that with a comment.

But people also blame Muslims, who won't dignify defamation with a comment.



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27 Nov 2015, 1:13 am

I can very much sympathize and empathize with Muslim Americans, or Muslims in Europe since being painted with a single brush after terrorist attacks. My family still recalls how our forebears, being German Americans during the First World War, had taken a lot of sh*t just for being of families originally from Germany. Their loyalty to America, as with other German Americans, was called into question, and their Lutheran ministers who often delivered sermons in the German language were threatened with arrest. I had read where German Americans had been lynched during the war years due to the "patriotic" fervor. And that bigotry directed at German Americans was not just the actions of ignoramuses, but had been vocally promoted by the Wilson Administration, and even Teddy Roosevelt had called for German Americans to swear a loyalty oath. To be sure, what German Americans had gone through paled in comparison to what Japanese Americans went through in the next World War, but it was certainly bad enough for my family to still tell stories about those times.


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